Envoy 2019
#181
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 141
Been a while since I read the LOA but my memory of it is effective this month, ALL flows will hold captain status for one year.
Edit: I just went and looked it up again. LOA 18-01, which is the flow grievance settlement for the protected pilots, is where this is. While this LOA is all about the protected pilots, the language in part 6 that establishes the one year of captain status requirement says "all Envoy pilots". We are a ways out from seeing how this will be enforced.
Edit: I just went and looked it up again. LOA 18-01, which is the flow grievance settlement for the protected pilots, is where this is. While this LOA is all about the protected pilots, the language in part 6 that establishes the one year of captain status requirement says "all Envoy pilots". We are a ways out from seeing how this will be enforced.
For those needing further clarification:
The letter is titled: First Officer Advancement LOA, May 15, 2018
Section 6 states:
6. Eligibility for flow to American
In order to identify the Envoy pilots who will be offered New Pilot Positions at American Airlines in any particular training class, Envoy will identify the most senior pilots who are in active status or expected to be in active status as of the first day of the applicable
training class. Beginning January 1, 2019, An Envoy pilot will only be eligible to be offered a New Pilot Position at American if the Envoy pilot holds or has held a Captain status at Envoy and prior to flowing to AA the pilot must have satisfied a one-year training freeze in accordance with Section 15.J.2. The requirement to satisfy a one-year training freeze, as specified in this paragraph, does not apply to Captains who are displaced. Envoy may waive the training freeze requirement in its sole discretion.
Envoy may, in its sole discretion, use a web-based or other electronic means by which Envoy pilots accept offers of New Pilot Positions with American.
#182
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 141
Your company seniority will provide you with additional vacation that you've already accrued as compared to those in your class that have no company seniority.
Come one over, join the Pilot ranks!
#183
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 71
What’s the average class size and how close to being first to pick would A current 121 pilot with a few hundred 121 time be? DFW is nice, ORD is fine 175 is preferable because to my understanding it’s only ORD/DFW. commuting to LGA would be outrageously painful.
#184
Around 30. You should be alright.
#187
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 224
#188
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Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 34
My friend just got the displacement and he said the normal rate will be paid on time, and at the end of the month an adjustment will make up the difference. Your OT should be paid at CA rate OT, there are rumors that this was not the case. The following month after the award the pay should be normalized at the CA rate. I would expect your employee “profile” to lag behind this whole process. But the direct deposits are, let’s say, controlling.
Ask me next bid and I’ll know for sure, until then, Vee-1 rotate!
Ask me next bid and I’ll know for sure, until then, Vee-1 rotate!
#190
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,656
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