Envoy 2019
06-28-2019, 10:16 PM
#1402
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 502
Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
Go to travel planner and import it
06-30-2019, 07:05 AM
#1404
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: Resigned
Posts: 1,547
Originally Posted by Ijustlikeflying
Does anyone know with the nyc A12 LOA commuting, do you only have to give yourself one flight option ?
06-30-2019, 09:37 AM
#1405
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 217
New seniority list is 3 months newer than the last update. My flow number moved up an average of 32.3 slots per those three months. Meaning 3.3 people left outside of flow above me per month. With 2.5 years left to flow, that number will go down as the percentage of pilots above me goes down. Let’s say an average of 2 pilots leave ahead of me for the rest of my time here. That puts me two months ahead of schedule. Now subtract the 2 Decembers that AA won’t be hiring and you get exactly what the ALPA seniority list says. Obviously it’s a small sample size, but when will I start seeing the company’s magical attrition/flow numbers come into play?
06-30-2019, 09:47 AM
#1406
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Still 2, in many cases it won’t be true positive space (when basic economy fares are sold out)
This isn’t aimed at you NVA but rather a public service announcement.
06-30-2019, 09:54 AM
#1408
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 177
Originally Posted by Pedro4President
But who cares you are pay protected!!!!! Don’t snipe a jump seat because you are wanting to get to work.
This isn’t aimed at you NVA but rather a public service announcement.
This isn’t aimed at you NVA but rather a public service announcement.
06-30-2019, 10:08 AM
#1409
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,454
Originally Posted by mketch11
New seniority list is 3 months newer than the last update. My flow number moved up an average of 32.3 slots per those three months. Meaning 3.3 people left outside of flow above me per month. With 2.5 years left to flow, that number will go down as the percentage of pilots above me goes down. Let’s say an average of 2 pilots leave ahead of me for the rest of my time here. That puts me two months ahead of schedule. Now subtract the 2 Decembers that AA won’t be hiring and you get exactly what the ALPA seniority list says. Obviously it’s a small sample size, but when will I start seeing the company’s magical attrition/flow numbers come into play?
06-30-2019, 10:53 AM
#1410
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
The company is advertising that if you get hired NOW that you will flow 5.5 years, not that there are pilots here that WILL flow in 5 years. The group that will flow within 5ish years will do so because there were huge numbers of people that left and little hiring for quite a while. Now the opposite is true. Envoy is currently hiring 60 a month and flowing half that. There were months when there closer to 75. And the flow is about to be choked off to 15 a month. There is no way the numbers will work unless the company goal is to drive away twice as many pilots outside the flow. THEN the math starts to work.
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