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Ijustlikeflying 01-26-2019 08:35 AM

Concessions in 2019
 
Any thoughts on the company’s latest announcement of the reserve rules negotiations coming to an end? Haha classic envoy. PSA is over there getting premium pay for anything over 75hours and we are getting asked to take concessions to even keep reserve talks open, give me a break.

Cyio 01-26-2019 09:27 AM

Yes, it is a total **** you to the pilot group. It’s absurd to be asking for concessions in this market, of any kind, let alone just to keep discussions open.

This would be like asking for a raise from your boss but before they will even discuss it, you have to hand over $1000 bucks. I mean it’s so nonsensical.

I really feel like they have shown their true colors here so at least we can approach everything from the standpoint that the company has zero respect for us.

wiz5422 01-26-2019 09:38 AM

I bet everyone is still going out of their way to make the operation run smooth.....FLY by the book, fly safe, and do what the company said "Don't rush " when doing your jobs.

buddies8 01-26-2019 09:51 AM

Fmp-1
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Ijustlikeflying 01-26-2019 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2750390)
I bet everyone is still going out of their way to make the operation run smooth.....FLY by the book, fly safe, and do what the company said "Don't rush " when doing your jobs.

Never ever rush. FM1.

enyALPA 01-26-2019 10:00 AM

It's a shame we couldn't come to an agreement for the betterment of our pilot group and industry. Concessions were an absolute non-starter for your MEC and their introduction into these talks was as unexpected as it was surprising.

Please note that we will continue to impress upon management the dire situation other carriers have found themselves in should the new "currency" (new hires) dry up.

use2fly 01-26-2019 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2750390)
I bet everyone is still going out of their way to make the operation run smooth.....FLY by the book, fly safe, and do what the company said "Don't rush " when doing your jobs.

And loose that sweet $75.00 per month to cut corners and do a quick turn so that we can make our greedy management look better?

402FreightDog 01-26-2019 12:51 PM

Union needs to draft a statement recommending against new hires coming here.

Start informational picketing.

People need to start showing up to RW’s informational sessions and let him know your displeasure with the situation. The last one I went to there was only about four people. We need to flood him. The company sees apathy and is taking advantage of it.

wiz5422 01-26-2019 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by 402FreightDog (Post 2750501)
Union needs to draft a statement recommending against new hires coming here.

Start informational picketing.

People need to start showing up to RW’s informational sessions and let him know your displeasure with the situation. The last one I went to there was only about four people. We need to flood him. The company sees apathy and is taking advantage of it.

The apathy starts with our union. They need to take a bigger stern approach with the company. To many times they have given into them by bailing them out and giving the company band aids to fix the issues they have created.

I agree that the Union needs to start a massive informational campaign targeting new hires and especially the blinded cadets.

402FreightDog 01-26-2019 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2750547)
The apathy starts with our union. They need to take a bigger stern approach with the company. To many times they have given into them by bailing them out and giving the company band aids to fix the issues they have created.

I agree that the Union needs to start a massive informational campaign targeting new hires and especially the blinded cadets.

While I agree new hires need more information, it is really too late in the game for them or even cadets. They have already taken the money.

Most cadets are also so completely blind I really don’t know what the approach to educate them should be. Most are happy just for the travel benefits and have such crappy conditions trying to get their time that they see almost anything as an improvement.


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