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FAFWaterbro 02-01-2019 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by jake cutter (Post 2754590)
UND huh? How’re your video production skills?

HAHA honestly sir, I think Swayne does a pretty good job.

FAFWaterbro 02-01-2019 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2754579)
Goto pprune and check out the Cathay forums there. It may change your mind pretty quickly about working for Cathay.

Did not know such place exist.
Thanks

IFRDriver 02-01-2019 04:32 PM

Try getting into regional with more CRJ flying. Get PIC time and applying for China Express, go from there.

Or try direct interview with those Chinese airlines, they have paid training program, once you get your multi-commercial you will intially start with B737/A320, and flying international widebody within only 5 years.

Or get your Commercial/instructor rating, get into GA gig in China(mostly flight training), get additional 500hrs TT and applying those Chinese Legacies.

If you thinking about go from american regional airlines and upgrade to legacies, get your B737 /A320 pic time and apply, you are too old to apply. The maximum age applying for those Chinese Legacies are 40.

IFRDriver 02-02-2019 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2754579)
Goto pprune and check out the Cathay forums there. It may change your mind pretty quickly about working for Cathay.


Everyone has different opinions about working overseas, especially in Asian countries. Some people succeed and enjoyed some people just feel uncomfortable and everything goes bad quickly. Most reason feeling uncomfortable were culture shock, language barrier and far away from families.

Since he was from Asian countries he should be good for that.

havick206 02-02-2019 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by IFRDriver (Post 2755158)
Everyone has different opinions about working overseas, especially in Asian countries. Some people succeed and enjoyed some people just feel uncomfortable and everything goes bad quickly. Most reason feeling uncomfortable were culture shock, language barrier and far away from families.

Since he was from Asian countries he should be good for that.

If you read that forum you will see how Cathay specifically treat their pilots.

You just have to look at the massive difference in contracts that new hires are on compared to legacy pilots their.

I wasn’t generalizing about Asian carriers in general as their are some good gigs were pilots are treated fairly well and paid handsomely.

Cathay is a different beast.

uavking 02-02-2019 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by IFRDriver (Post 2755158)
Everyone has different opinions about working overseas, especially in Asian countries. Some people succeed and enjoyed some people just feel uncomfortable and everything goes bad quickly. Most reason feeling uncomfortable were culture shock, language barrier and far away from families.

Since he was from Asian countries he should be good for that.

Cathay is not the career gig that it used to be; doesn't matter if you're an expat or local. Management is adversarial, and bent on aggressive cost cutting (see the push towards local contracts). An airline that seeks concessions, in an environment in which it already has trouble attracting talent, should be a warning of things to come.

TiredSoul 02-02-2019 11:28 AM

Alternatively get to a 737/320 type as quick as you can.
Preferably with 500 PIC then head to China.
Current expat contracts are $250k-$350k a year.

IFRDriver 02-02-2019 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2755185)
If you read that forum you will see how Cathay specifically treat their pilots.

You just have to look at the massive difference in contracts that new hires are on compared to legacy pilots their.

I wasn’t generalizing about Asian carriers in general as their are some good gigs were pilots are treated fairly well and paid handsomely.

Cathay is a different beast.

Yep, Even based in Hong Kong it's all depends on who is actual boss for that carrier.

He mentioned Hong Kong Airline would be a best bet since the actual boss were Hainan Airlines group, best pay large fleet and transfer to different base easily.

IFRDriver 02-02-2019 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2755235)
Alternatively get to a 737/320 type as quick as you can.
Preferably with 500 PIC then head to China.
Current expat contracts are $250k-$350k a year.

If go with flow, he will get his 737/320 pic time around late 40s.
Definitely not acceptable with those Asian carriers(age of 40 max mostly).

Hopefully some carrier would not care about age but working with Chinese medical would be a big pain at the age.

So if eventually decide fly overseas should make a quick decision jump into any opportunity to get specific type pic time ASAP. Unfortunately, most of them are oversea job.

Since he just start yet best bet would go with those Asian carriers from scratch.

Or if stay in US any LCC would be upgrade in year 2 or 3?

TiredSoul 02-02-2019 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by IFRDriver (Post 2755400)
If go with flow, he will get his 737/320 pic time around late 40s.
Definitely not acceptable with those Asian carriers(age of 40 max mostly).

Hopefully some carrier would not care about age but working with Chinese medical would be a big pain at the age.

So if eventually decide fly overseas should make a quick decision jump into any opportunity to get specific type pic time ASAP. Unfortunately, most of them are oversea job.

Since he just start yet best bet would go with those Asian carriers from scratch.

Or if stay in US any LCC would be upgrade in year 2 or 3?

Flow is not the holy grail.
Lotsa places fly the 73 with a relatively quick upgrade.


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