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02-09-2019, 03:40 PM

Nazgul

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Flow upgrade time with military experience

Question for the military guys at Envoy. What has been the average timeline for getting a call from the majors? Is it 6 years like the recruiting campaign is preaching or is it shorter. Thank you.

02-09-2019, 04:36 PM

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Question for the military guys at Envoy. What has been the average timeline for getting a call from the majors? Is it 6 years like the recruiting campaign is preaching or is it shorter. Thank you.

You have to be much more specific. What kind of military time? Are you talking RTP or FW with lack of currency?

02-09-2019, 04:49 PM

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I’m retired AF FW guy, I don’t understand in this job market why ANYBODY with competitive TT/PIC would go to any regional, if they are willing to put in the time at Recruitment events......imho, of course.......

02-09-2019, 04:56 PM

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If you don't have an ATP, you need it from somewhere.

02-09-2019, 05:23 PM

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Ummm maybe because some military guys are tools and can’t have a normal conversation so they can’t pass an interview. Maybe they need to go get some. Social interaction time and build their personality experiences vs their flight time. Just a thought.

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02-09-2019, 06:49 PM

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I’m retired AF FW guy

It shows. Thanks for affirming the stereotype we all fight against. Call me when you don’t pass your interview, I’ll recommend you at Mesa.

02-09-2019, 07:59 PM

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Even a USAFA grad (KC-135; who'd been away from flying for awhile) needed something like two years as an Envoy FO to get picked up by AA. So...

02-09-2019, 08:10 PM

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Yes, well if you had competitive TT/PIC you wouldn’t have to, as long as that was in the last year or so. And there is some magic formula, different for each company, how much of what kind of time and how recently to still be competitive. Other wise you AREN’T competitive and you need recency. And a 121 training event will probably do it for most in that situation, even from a regional. But you still have to have the apps already in and update. Again different companies, different trigger points, as to what MIGHT trigger a call.

02-10-2019, 02:02 AM

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Even a USAFA grad (KC-135; who'd been away from flying for awhile) needed something like two years as an Envoy FO to get picked up by AA. So...

Same situation but the FO did 3 months on reserve and got picked up by AA. He didn’t consolidate by the time he was picked up.

02-10-2019, 04:29 AM

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You have to be much more specific. What kind of military time? Are you talking RTP or FW with lack of currency?

pitchattitude, to be more specific: I’m an Osprey guy who will be transitioning to civilian straight out of the fleet. Now that the FAA counts my MV time as ‘fixed wing’ instead of powered lift, just seeing if that will speed up my process for getting to the majors faster. Thanks for the reply.