Envoy’s new hire training
#1
New Hire
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Joined APC: Apr 2019
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Envoy’s new hire training
Hello gets,
New member here. I’ve just reached ATP mins and have some questions about training at Envoy.
I’ve reached my 1500 hours teaching mostly private pilot students in Cessna 172s. I do not have my CFII and have very little IFR experience besides my IR training.
My question is, how much harder will training be for a person like me with very little IFR time?
What can I do now to increase my success in training?
I look forward to your response -
New member here. I’ve just reached ATP mins and have some questions about training at Envoy.
I’ve reached my 1500 hours teaching mostly private pilot students in Cessna 172s. I do not have my CFII and have very little IFR experience besides my IR training.
My question is, how much harder will training be for a person like me with very little IFR time?
What can I do now to increase my success in training?
I look forward to your response -
#2
Hello gets,
New member here. I’ve just reached ATP mins and have some questions about training at Envoy.
I’ve reached my 1500 hours teaching mostly private pilot students in Cessna 172s. I do not have my CFII and have very little IFR experience besides my IR training.
My question is, how much harder will training be for a person like me with very little IFR time?
What can I do now to increase my success in training?
I look forward to your response -
New member here. I’ve just reached ATP mins and have some questions about training at Envoy.
I’ve reached my 1500 hours teaching mostly private pilot students in Cessna 172s. I do not have my CFII and have very little IFR experience besides my IR training.
My question is, how much harder will training be for a person like me with very little IFR time?
What can I do now to increase my success in training?
I look forward to your response -
Get IFR experience. You will not do well in any 121 program if you are not IFR proficient.
#3
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Hello gets,
New member here. I’ve just reached ATP mins and have some questions about training at Envoy.
I’ve reached my 1500 hours teaching mostly private pilot students in Cessna 172s. I do not have my CFII and have very little IFR experience besides my IR training.
My question is, how much harder will training be for a person like me with very little IFR time?
What can I do now to increase my success in training?
I look forward to your response -
New member here. I’ve just reached ATP mins and have some questions about training at Envoy.
I’ve reached my 1500 hours teaching mostly private pilot students in Cessna 172s. I do not have my CFII and have very little IFR experience besides my IR training.
My question is, how much harder will training be for a person like me with very little IFR time?
What can I do now to increase my success in training?
I look forward to your response -
Doesn’t matter what operator.
Do you have the 75 hours instrument required for the ATP?
Definitely need to be instrument proficient and should be current.
#4
New Hire
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Joined APC: Apr 2019
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I do have the 75 hours required for the ATP. I’m not instrument current but I do plan on getting current and doing a couple hours in an FTD with an CFII before training.
#5
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And if you haven’t spent much time in actual IFR conditions, I would recommend that as well.
#7
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 14
Hello gets,
New member here. I’ve just reached ATP mins and have some questions about training at Envoy.
I’ve reached my 1500 hours teaching mostly private pilot students in Cessna 172s. I do not have my CFII and have very little IFR experience besides my IR training.
My question is, how much harder will training be for a person like me with very little IFR time?
What can I do now to increase my success in training?
I look forward to your response -
New member here. I’ve just reached ATP mins and have some questions about training at Envoy.
I’ve reached my 1500 hours teaching mostly private pilot students in Cessna 172s. I do not have my CFII and have very little IFR experience besides my IR training.
My question is, how much harder will training be for a person like me with very little IFR time?
What can I do now to increase my success in training?
I look forward to your response -
#8
I have no dog in the fight but to play devils advocate here. How did all the pilots make it through training back in the early 2000s when they did ATPs 90 day program and got hired at 250hrs? A lot of those pilots went straight into flying VOR and NDB approaches with 50ish hours of IFR time in a piston.
I'm not saying its smart or safe but I think its just like every other demographic of pilot "it depends on the person".
I'm not saying its smart or safe but I think its just like every other demographic of pilot "it depends on the person".
#9
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,729
I have no dog in the fight but to play devils advocate here. How did all the pilots make it through training back in the early 2000s when they did ATPs 90 day program and got hired at 250hrs? A lot of those pilots went straight into flying VOR and NDB approaches with 50ish hours of IFR time in a piston.
I'm not saying its smart or safe but I think its just like every other demographic of pilot "it depends on the person".
I'm not saying its smart or safe but I think its just like every other demographic of pilot "it depends on the person".
Just a hunch, I could be wrong
#10
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 539
For anyone trying to pass a 121 new hire training (any airline), here is the secret sauce:
Attitude, show up hungry to learn. You gotta want to learn not only the plane but the company too.
Study, lots and lots. Here is how: note cards. Write out the notecards. The act of writing will be another time you see the specific details. Doing the cards over and over again will help. After that quiz and be quizzed by classmates.
Get sleep, don’t stay up all night. If your tired you will only waste your own time as you won’t learn squat.
Excercise, not crazy but a little goes a long way.
Eat decent food. Burger King has bent many new hires over and railed them. Doesn’t gotta be super vegan BS. Just decent, like leave it to beaver.
Have a beer, A Beer! Not The Whole darn 6 pack. Seriously have a beer, not kidding, I’m encouraging a drink.
Study some more, be an expert.
Lastly, ask good questions in class and stay engaged. This will be of tremendous benefit for everyone.
Best of luck
Attitude, show up hungry to learn. You gotta want to learn not only the plane but the company too.
Study, lots and lots. Here is how: note cards. Write out the notecards. The act of writing will be another time you see the specific details. Doing the cards over and over again will help. After that quiz and be quizzed by classmates.
Get sleep, don’t stay up all night. If your tired you will only waste your own time as you won’t learn squat.
Excercise, not crazy but a little goes a long way.
Eat decent food. Burger King has bent many new hires over and railed them. Doesn’t gotta be super vegan BS. Just decent, like leave it to beaver.
Have a beer, A Beer! Not The Whole darn 6 pack. Seriously have a beer, not kidding, I’m encouraging a drink.
Study some more, be an expert.
Lastly, ask good questions in class and stay engaged. This will be of tremendous benefit for everyone.
Best of luck
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