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Originally Posted by Varsity
(Post 2811907)
You don't know and no it's not.
If you're hired today, maybe in a decade. 10~ years. People flowing today are 2008-2010ish hires, but they are flowing at a much higher rate than you will flow. The flow will fall early next year from 29 a month to 15 a month. 8.9 years for a new hire today in the union list, worst case scenario based on current contract. (obviously this is subject to change). |
Originally Posted by rld1k
(Post 2811660)
"why is envoy the lowest paid regional airline in the United States?"
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Sorry, my bad, I didn’t specify I was looking for non-cynical responses! :)
I know the recruiter’s sole job is to get pilots in the door and not to talk about the negative stuff. That’s why I’m looking for a list of questions to ask. I’m interviewing at other airlines as well and want to be able to compare them based on the answers they give me. I honestly don’t know the right questions to ask before committing to any airline. Thanks! |
Originally Posted by iFlyStick
(Post 2811934)
Sorry, my bad, I didn’t specify I was looking for non-cynical responses! :)
I know the recruiter’s sole job is to get pilots in the door and not to talk about the negative stuff. That’s why I’m looking for a list of questions to ask. I’m interviewing at other airlines as well and want to be able to compare them based on the answers they give me. I honestly don’t know the right questions to ask before committing to any airline. Thanks! That being said, you should ask questions about what is important to you. Are you a potential commuter? Ask how commutable the schedules are. Do you want money? Ask if overtime flying is available. Do you want days off? Ask about junior manning, how often it happens. Ask how many days off an average line has. Do you want to upgrade soon? Ask about when people are actually upgrading right now. Nobody can tell you want questions to ask, because only you know what's really important to you. Different things are important to different people. For example, I'm a commuter, so commutability of the schedule is important to me. I didn't spend much time on reserve, so I don't really care about reserve rules. If you're going to a place with long reserve, or if you are interested in living in base and bidding reserve on purpose, reserve rules might be really important to you. If you're looking for industry insights as to what regional is about to get the next contract or lose flying, the recruiters act like they know, but generally don't know. |
Originally Posted by Squirrel27
(Post 2811947)
For the record, I agree with all of the prior responses. Unless you have a really, really good reason to come to Envoy (flying the 175 should not be a good reason) then there are way better places to be looking right now.
That being said, you should ask questions about what is important to you. Are you a potential commuter? Ask how commutable the schedules are. Do you want money? Ask if overtime flying is available. Do you want days off? Ask about junior manning, how often it happens. Ask how many days off an average line has. Do you want to upgrade soon? Ask about when people are actually upgrading right now. Nobody can tell you want questions to ask, because only you know what's really important to you. Different things are important to different people. For example, I'm a commuter, so commutability of the schedule is important to me. I didn't spend much time on reserve, so I don't really care about reserve rules. If you're going to a place with long reserve, or if you are interested in living in base and bidding reserve on purpose, reserve rules might be really important to you. If you're looking for industry insights as to what regional is about to get the next contract or lose flying, the recruiters act like they know, but generally don't know. |
Originally Posted by iFlyStick
(Post 2811934)
Sorry, my bad, I didn’t specify I was looking for non-cynical responses! :)
I know the recruiter’s sole job is to get pilots in the door and not to talk about the negative stuff. That’s why I’m looking for a list of questions to ask. I’m interviewing at other airlines as well and want to be able to compare them based on the answers they give me. I honestly don’t know the right questions to ask before committing to any airline. Thanks! There's really no questions that you need to ask. Because there's no "good" answers than a recruiter can honestly give you. So what's the point? That said, Envoy COULD still be the right place for you if you meet the following criteria: 1) You live in, or plan to live in, DFW. 2) You do not value flow. If the above criteria do not match for you, let us know. Someone here can probably steer you to the correct location. |
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