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pitchattitude 06-29-2019 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by TheLycoming (Post 2845346)
Hey Everyone,
Thank you for your answers. I have interviews set up with Envoy, Republic and PSA. I am still debating with the three companies. I have been reading the threads with Envoy and the issues the company is going through with regards to the pay package.
My question is, 1) should I wait for a November December class with Republic in order to eventually get MIA, or to apply to Envoy bite the bullet and build seniority sooner as well as getting MIA sooner?
I've read that new hire classes at Envoy are getting mainly the 175 out of training, and not the 145 as much (which would not allow me to get MIA)
2) Go to PSA and commute from MIA/FLL? I checked passrider and commuting to DAY from FL is going to be tricky (2 leg commute).
I appreciate any type of advice. I am new in this field and trying to understand the informaiton is not an easy task.

It is a crap shoot as to what is available in class. Close to 60% of the Envoy fleet is still 145s, although what number is slowly changing. MIA is a small base. NY is growing again, at least for the winter. But it’s the Envoy way that the more you want something (145) the higher is the likelihood you won’t get it. Both PSA and Republic are single fleet, so that takes that out of the equation.

chrisreedrules 06-30-2019 04:04 AM

Why would you 2-leg commute to DAY from south Florida when there are direct flights to CLT, DCA, and PHL from MIA and FLL?

I’m not saying go to PSA, because if I were in your shoes I’d pick a regional with a MIA base. But just know if you picked PSA that it would only be a single-leg commute.

TheLycoming 06-30-2019 10:20 AM

The reasoning behind DAY is that it's the most junior base where getting a line would be the quickest. Plus, the commuter policy on PSA is more friendly to pilots from what I've been told.

TheLycoming 08-24-2019 07:19 AM

Update:
Hey everyone,
I interviewed with Envoy,PSA, and Republic, and got a CJO from the 3. I am currently in the process of deciding where to go.
My main concerns are the following:
1) If I bid for LGA 145, how long will I be in reserve before I could transfer to MIA FO Reserve. Would it be less than 3 months since DOH? Would I be under the unlimited commuter hotels/A12 passes for the 3 months?
2)If I were to choose Republic, with regards to career progression, would I still have a chance to enter AA outside the flow?
3) Is New York at ENY both LGA/JFK or just LGA? If so, how would commuting from FL be in that case.

I really appreciate any answers. It is not an easy decision to make. My main goal is QOL/Career Progression/Benefits. I do not mind the type of acft I will be flying.

HalyardJammer 08-24-2019 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by TheLycoming (Post 2875371)
Update:
Hey everyone,
I interviewed with Envoy,PSA, and Republic, and got a CJO from the 3. I am currently in the process of deciding where to go.
My main concerns are the following:
1) If I bid for LGA 145, how long will I be in reserve before I could transfer to MIA FO Reserve. Would it be less than 3 months since DOH? Would I be under the unlimited commuter hotels/A12 passes for the 3 months?
2)If I were to choose Republic, with regards to career progression, would I still have a chance to enter AA outside the flow?
3) Is New York at ENY both LGA/JFK or just LGA? If so, how would commuting from FL be in that case.

I really appreciate any answers. It is not an easy decision to make. My main goal is QOL/Career Progression/Benefits. I do not mind the type of acft I will be flying.

1: technical support will get back to you in the form of another poster.
2: Yes.
3: Both.

black cat 08-24-2019 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by TheLycoming (Post 2875371)
Update:
Hey everyone,
I interviewed with Envoy,PSA, and Republic, and got a CJO from the 3. I am currently in the process of deciding where to go.
My main concerns are the following:
1) If I bid for LGA 145, how long will I be in reserve before I could transfer to MIA FO Reserve. Would it be less than 3 months since DOH? Would I be under the unlimited commuter hotels/A12 passes for the 3 months?
2)If I were to choose Republic, with regards to career progression, would I still have a chance to enter AA outside the flow?
3) Is New York at ENY both LGA/JFK or just LGA? If so, how would commuting from FL be in that case.

I really appreciate any answers. It is not an easy decision to make. My main goal is QOL/Career Progression/Benefits. I do not mind the type of acft I will be flying.

1. Things are very dynamic and always changing. But for at least somewhat of a reference, the most JR MIA FO is a 3/19 hire.

2. It's possible but unless you were military trained, getting hired outside of the flow is extremely tough. Military and flow makes up over 90% of the hiring at AA.

3. LGA and JFK. No way around it, commuting sucks. Especially to RSV at Envoy. But there are lots of options between NY and MIA.

TheLycoming 08-25-2019 05:44 PM

Is there any benefit when it comes to transportation between LGA and JFK while awaiting to get the MIA FO reserve bid?

TheLycoming 08-25-2019 06:25 PM

The other question that arised is, between PSA and Envoy what things should I consider?
Envoy has a Miami base, whereas on PSA I would have to commute for my entire career, but according to the threads, pilots are treated better?

dera 08-25-2019 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by TheLycoming (Post 2876497)
The other question that arised is, between PSA and Envoy what things should I consider?
Envoy has a Miami base, whereas on PSA I would have to commute for my entire career, but according to the threads, pilots are treated better?

Nothing beats driving to work.

Nothing.

CanWeGetTheLeft 08-25-2019 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2876507)
Nothing beats driving to work.

Nothing.

Nothing beats living where I want too.

Nothing*.

*note: opinion is from commuter that will most likely be a commuter for the rest of his life because I like having the freedom to live wherever I want to, and I accept the fact that sometimes I won’t make it to work. More importantly, sometimes I won’t make it home. But that isn’t most of the time.

**Commuting has been known to cause the following: occasional missed commutes home, need to buy a hotel at the last second, and possibly flying to an airport that you usually commute out of but not THIS time, meaning your vehicle is in another city. Stop commuting immediately if you experience any of the following: worrying about your commute home on day 1 of a 4 day, inability to accept anything but direct flights to your home city, or refusing to ride on Spirit. Some commuters have reported fatigue. If you feel fatigued when being notified that you have been extended or junior assigned, notify crew services immediately.


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