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teamflyer 05-06-2019 10:46 AM

175 in MIA?
 
Is this the start of envoy taking over all eagle flights in MIA. see a envoy 175 on flightaware ENY4385

bigtime209 05-06-2019 10:53 AM

There is no Envoy 4385. There is, however, a Republic 4385 that operates in MIA.

NoValueAviator 05-06-2019 10:56 AM

Republic is shutting Envoy down in both our east coast bases, but much slower in Miami.

SoFloFlyer 05-06-2019 02:18 PM

Safe to say that MIA will be a small ENY base in the next few years?

pitchattitude 05-06-2019 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2815399)
Safe to say that MIA will be a small ENY base in the next few years?

Likely, yes. Safe to say, no. Not in this business, and not at Envoy. It only recently came back.

Squirrel27 05-06-2019 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2815399)
Safe to say that MIA will be a small ENY base in the next few years?

Not necessarily. I wouldn't be surprised if there is no Envoy MIA 175 base ever. I think AAG is pretty happy with Republic.

Ijustlikeflying 05-06-2019 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Squirrel27 (Post 2815424)
Not necessarily. I wouldn't be surprised if there is no Envoy MIA 175 base ever. I think AAG is pretty happy with Republic.

I love how everyone on here talks like they sit in on AAG meetings...haha...you have no idea what AAG is or isn’t happy with, nor do I or anyone posting on these forums. And if they say they do, they’re lying.

Squirrel27 05-06-2019 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Ijustlikeflying (Post 2815463)
I love how everyone on here talks like they sit in on AAG meetings...haha...you have no idea what AAG is or isn’t happy with, nor do I or anyone posting on these forums. And if they say they do, they’re lying.

I just go off of the news articles about TSA, ExpressJet, and Air Whiskey flying going away, and Mesa being "reprimanded" by American. I haven't seen any such articles about Republic.

One can also deduce clues from what the VP of AAG Planning said about American's regional feed a few quarters ago.

I never pretended to know what all the future plans are. But it seems that Republic is pretty safe at the moment. And betting on a 175 Miami base that nobody really knows if it will happen may not be a smart move.

Pedro4President 05-07-2019 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by Squirrel27 (Post 2815467)
I just go off of the news articles about TSA, ExpressJet, and Air Whiskey flying going away, and Mesa being "reprimanded" by American. I haven't seen any such articles about Republic.

One can also deduce clues from what the VP of AAG Planning said about American's regional feed a few quarters ago.

I never pretended to know what all the future plans are. But it seems that Republic is pretty safe at the moment. And betting on a 175 Miami base that nobody really knows if it will happen may not be a smart move.

The only way I see the 175 going to MIAMI is to replace our 145.

jake cutter 05-07-2019 07:09 AM

In order for our 175 fleet to serve MIA in lieu of Republic they’d need to be equipped for over water shenanigans. Far as anyone knows that ain’t happening.

Cyio 05-07-2019 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by jake cutter (Post 2815730)
In order for our 175 fleet to serve MIA in lieu of Republic they’d need to be equipped for over water shenanigans. Far as anyone knows that ain’t happening.

The whole program was scrapped because certifying the planes would mean they couldn’t use them for Canada flying out of Dallas. The logistics would have been an issue.

buddies8 05-07-2019 10:02 AM

How far is yyz from dfw, and how far is phl to oma. Republic does phl oma.

Varsity 05-07-2019 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2815835)
How far is yyz from dfw, and how far is phl to oma. Republic does phl oma.

Envoy flies to YYC from DFW. 1,523 miles.

PHL-OMA is barely 1,000 miles.

MD-11Loader 05-07-2019 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2815757)
The whole program was scrapped because certifying the planes would mean they couldn’t use them for Canada flying out of Dallas. The logistics would have been an issue.

I wonder how much weight it would be? Republic only has life vests on their aircraft and they have the 160 mile exemption. I think that’s what we had for the ATR as well isn’t it? Just doing that couldn’t add too much weight.

Varsity 05-07-2019 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2815839)
I wonder how much weight it would be? Republic only has life vests on their aircraft and they have the 160 mile exemption. I think that’s what we had for the ATR as well isn’t it? Just doing that couldn’t add too much weight.

It's over 600 pounds.

MD-11Loader 05-07-2019 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2815842)
It's over 600 pounds.

Each vest and plastic container is almost 8 lbs? That’s nuts. Oh well. Let Republic have MIA, we have cool lanyards.

jake cutter 05-07-2019 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2815838)
Envoy flies to YYC from DFW. 1,523 miles.



PHL-OMA is barely 1,000 miles.



We do DFW-YYZ too. And the new California flying is just as much as YYC almost.

Tyrion 05-07-2019 11:01 AM

Republic isn't going anywhere anytime soon because they are partially owned by AAG, Delta, and United as part of their most recent bankruptcy restructuring, and their contacts are secured as part of that agreement.

Varsity 05-08-2019 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2815854)
Each vest and plastic container is almost 8 lbs? That’s nuts. Oh well. Let Republic have MIA, we have cool lanyards.

The slides are different too, bigger and probably heavier.

buddies8 05-08-2019 07:16 AM

A billion dollar corporation cant a afford the cost and savings by in house flying but a non w/o can afford it and make profits from aag.
What a concept.


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