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UnprotectdPilot 06-08-2019 09:46 AM

New Piedmont Pay Rates
 
https://i.imgur.com/pFC8PrL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QzRzWDZ.jpg

No concessions, no more FO retention bonus.
They also have 76-seater rates "just in case."

Also. Definitely an improvement in hard rates, but still lagging behind carriers like Endeavor (wholly-owned) and Republic (non-wholly owned) and their work rules / soft pay sucks.

Meanwhile, from Envoy Pilot Recruitment...
https://i.imgur.com/z7fw0iZ.png
Sigh.

#FUPM
#MEGA

buddies8 06-08-2019 09:56 AM

What are pdt 76 seater rates?
Right now there 50 seat rates are higher than our 76 seater or higher pay band.

Envoy pilot recruiters are liars who do it to stay off reserve and get more pilots behind them so they may flow someday. Used car sales people is all that they are.

UnprotectdPilot 06-08-2019 10:03 AM

I don't have the 76-seater table unfortunately, but if someone else does, feel free to post it.

Agreed about EPR. :rolleyes:

Also, apparently PDT is getting back pay to when the union started negotiations with the company.

AZFlyer 06-08-2019 10:21 AM

To clarify: Those rates you posted are the PSA 50 seat rates. The PDT rates have not been released yet. PDT rates are expected to match the PSA 50 seat rates for the E145. E170/175 rates will probably match PSA 76 seat rates.

Negotiations began in early April. Back pay will only go back to May 15.

UncreativeUser 06-08-2019 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 2833849)
To clarify: Those rates you posted are the PSA 50 seat rates. The PDT rates have not been released yet. PDT rates are expected to match the PSA 50 seat rates for the E145. E170/175 rates will probably match PSA 76 seat rates.

Negotiations began in early April. Back pay will only go back to May 15.



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pitchattitude 06-08-2019 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2833856)
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Please clarify. What part is incorrect and what then is the truth?

BigZ 06-08-2019 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2833856)
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Which part?
Their union email says retro pay to 15 May and those do look like PSA rates.
Matter of fact, PDT email mentions 12 yr scale and 14% bump for those that are already above it at the time of signing. PSA rates went to 18 yrs

dash8trash 06-08-2019 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2833856)
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LOL. What he said was spot on.

Voski 06-08-2019 11:46 AM

Outside the email sent out by PDT's MEC, I don't think there is official pay tables ... yet. Rumors (i.e. the "my buddy's friend") say that the PSA and Piedmont 50-seater tables are very similar, so this probably isn't all that far off in reality.

Phoenix21 06-08-2019 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by UnprotectdPilot (Post 2833832)
Meanwhile, from Envoy Pilot Recruitment...
https://i.imgur.com/z7fw0iZ.png
Sigh.

#FUPM
#MEGA

How many 175s does Envoy have now?

mketch11 06-08-2019 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Phoenix21 (Post 2833884)
How many 175s does Envoy have now?

Who cares?

dera 06-08-2019 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Phoenix21 (Post 2833884)
How many 175s does Envoy have now?

277NN is the newest on the line.

bigtime209 06-08-2019 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2833887)
277NN is the newest on the line.

Incorrect...

dera 06-08-2019 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2833889)
Incorrect...

Did they get 78/79 out of ABI already?

edit: Seems like they did. So 279NN is the newest one on the line.

280NN has interesting equipment btw. Who's the first one to spot it?

Weekendwarrior2 06-08-2019 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Phoenix21 (Post 2833884)
How many 175s does Envoy have now?



Doesn’t matter, why would you want to come here?

havick206 06-08-2019 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2833899)
Did they get 78/79 out of ABI already?

edit: Seems like they did. So 279NN is the newest one on the line.

280NN has interesting equipment btw. Who's the first one to spot it?

Before I left ENY a month ago, I dropped a few broken 145’s off at CMH and took them to the hangar.

All the mechanics were saying the overwater configured 175’s were slated to be in service by sep this year.

So for what it’s worth I guess that backs up what they were saying.

ERAUAV8TR 06-08-2019 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2833918)
Before I left ENY a month ago, I dropped a few broken 145’s off at CMH and took them to the hangar.

All the mechanics were saying the overwater configured 175’s were slated to be in service by sep this year.

So for what it’s worth I guess that backs up what they were saying.

https://apple.news/ACMMMaHjDRPabkLXT-cSEmw

blackbox348 06-08-2019 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2833918)
Before I left ENY a month ago, I dropped a few broken 145’s off at CMH and took them to the hangar.

All the mechanics were saying the overwater configured 175’s were slated to be in service by sep this year.

So for what it’s worth I guess that backs up what they were saying.

But we have flow

UncreativeUser 06-08-2019 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2833889)
Incorrect...



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rld1k 06-08-2019 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 2833969)
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Management shills aren't even trying anymore

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UncreativeUser 06-09-2019 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2834015)
Management shills aren't even trying anymore



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