Company reneged on pay package
#151
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Joined APC: May 2017
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,285
#152
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 79
#155
As to the last two sentences- That's rich. Let me quote, from guys senior to me:
"I'm just exercising my seniority/ contractual rights."
Perhaps you said it yourself. I was an eight yr. FO who upgraded to Capt. in 2008, and was displaced back the day after I finished OE. I earned my FT slot every bit as much as those who went before me, and those who came after. If you flowed- congrats- you're still senior. If not- you live with your decisions just like all the rest of us. And, you're still senior. Have a great day!!
#157
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,533
I met him once or twice when i flew for Eagle and can’t agree with you more. He’s in WAY over his head. I can’t believe he’s still there. No wonder the contract is still full of holes.
#158
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Joined APC: May 2019
Position: CA
Posts: 191
06/19/2019
RE: Compensation Improvement Package
Over the past two months we have been working with your ALPA representatives on a package that will increase your compensation. The focus of these changes were two fold, initially to increase rates for current captains and first officers, and additionally to incorporate certain bonuses into revised wage tables.
Each airline’s agreement with their pilot group is unique. Therefore, a lot of time and energy has been spent on what would work best for each side. It would not be fair or appropriate to go into the details of the challenges and associated hard work that has been done at the table by both sides. Despite recent communications on these negotiations, we remain committed to working with your representatives on this compensation package as we believe it is what you deserve.
Envoy pilots are some of the best trained and most professional pilots in the industry. As such, we want you fairly compensated for the great job that you do.
Best regards,
CA RW, VP – Flight Ops
Cool story bro.
#159
The language has gotten better, but AMR/AAG got more aggressive at arguing over things that were really not subject to interpretation, but they argued it anyway. I always thought part of it was just to bust our budget. It was effective.
#160
CA RW – Compensation Improvement Package
06/19/2019
RE: Compensation Improvement Package
Over the past two months we have been working with your ALPA representatives on a package that will increase your compensation. The focus of these changes were two fold, initially to increase rates for current captains and first officers, and additionally to incorporate certain bonuses into revised wage tables.
Each airline’s agreement with their pilot group is unique. Therefore, a lot of time and energy has been spent on what would work best for each side. It would not be fair or appropriate to go into the details of the challenges and associated hard work that has been done at the table by both sides. Despite recent communications on these negotiations, we remain committed to working with your representatives on this compensation package as we believe it is what you deserve.
Envoy pilots are some of the best trained and most professional pilots in the industry. As such, we want you fairly compensated for the great job that you do.
Best regards,
CA RW, VP – Flight Ops
06/19/2019
RE: Compensation Improvement Package
Over the past two months we have been working with your ALPA representatives on a package that will increase your compensation. The focus of these changes were two fold, initially to increase rates for current captains and first officers, and additionally to incorporate certain bonuses into revised wage tables.
Each airline’s agreement with their pilot group is unique. Therefore, a lot of time and energy has been spent on what would work best for each side. It would not be fair or appropriate to go into the details of the challenges and associated hard work that has been done at the table by both sides. Despite recent communications on these negotiations, we remain committed to working with your representatives on this compensation package as we believe it is what you deserve.
Envoy pilots are some of the best trained and most professional pilots in the industry. As such, we want you fairly compensated for the great job that you do.
Best regards,
CA RW, VP – Flight Ops
Simply brilliant management going on there....
Instead they got what they wanted and within two months were back starting with improvements because recruiting was falling off. It’s been 4 years of piecemeal improvements. Mostly bandaids to keep enough meat in the seats.
Now they’re screwed, and it’s entirely from their own doing and making. They were told. Instead they killed the messengers.
I’d encourage everybody to not respond to their email attempt at negotiating in public. Send your ideas comments and questions to your union reps.
You are not dealing with ethical, honest or honorable managers.
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