Commuting to ORD from DTW/FNT?
 

It shouldn’t be too bad, being a short flight? Am I gonna get screwed by winter weather? Considering Envoy over DTW regionals because I like the security of the flow. Or, is driving 5 hours before and after a trip crazy?

Well my show is 10am, I'm up at 3am to make my commute, that's 7 hours. So 5 hour drive would depend wear tear on car, toll cost and fuel cost. They add up fast.

One has to be flexible, watch the weather, bunch up trips/days off.

Often it can cost a handful of hours on each end getting to work, then home. One only gets so many misses, especially on probation.

While still positioning for long term, no need to move everywhere. Eventually I’d move somewhere within a two hour drive, unless you own the 3 generation, 900 acre family ranch.

I am not awake yet so removing everything I said about dFw.

I live about that distance from my base, and I have to deal with a lot of winter weather where I live.

There is no way in hell that I'd do that. The plows don't keep the roads as clean at 2am as they do at 2pm.

That being said, there are other folks for whom that seems to work well. YMMV.

He's talking about Detroit, not Dallas lol

lol, you are totally right, coffee hadn't kicked in yet. My apologies for totally messing that up.

I am leaving now, lol.

We have quite a few DTW commuters. Between Delta, United, and American there are a tremendous number of opportunities to get to work. FNT isn’t as busy as it used to be, but still has a few flights. With 22 flights today, your best bet is DTW for sure.

Not sure about your situation, but you are giving up a lot of QOL and pay for flow. Being in DTW, you have several other options that will advance your career with more flying time and pay with a lot less stress.

Long before you'd flow through Envoy, you'll be competitive at Spirit, Kalitta, and eventually Delta and United by flying for Skywest or Endeavor; all without the headache of commuting.

And at least in terms of Endeavor, lots more money.

Really if you're commuting to DTW Endeavor is a no brainer.

Only if you're prepared to spend a year or more in NYC.

While making truly top of the industry wages.
At Envoy you still have a good chance of spending time in NY

Money isn't everything, and the grass is always greener...

No it isnt everything but is sure solves a lot of problems and if you are going to be commuting regardless, why not make more of it.

I’m this business money and pay can fluctuate over time. 9E may be the best paying now but that could easily change. He just doesn’t want to get stuck as a lifer at a regional, and the WOs offer a way out, a path to a legacy carrier. Envoy and PSA are your best bets I think.

That doesn't really hold water. We only flow if AA is hiring. If the music stops, it stops for us too.

And how often does that happen, there’s only a hiring freeze in August because of the MD 80 retirement. Wow, only a month, big deal. AA will be hiring for quite a while expect since they are the airline impacted the most from retirements.


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Seriously? What happened 18 years ago? If anything of that scale happens again whether it's economical, political, natural or any combination thereof, the same thing will happen. Everyone on the top two thirds of the seniority lists better get comfortable with where they're at. Hiring will stop and the airlines will let the retirements do their downsizing for them.

I remember what happened then, crystal. I’ll make a simple point. If anything like that happens again, then everyone suffers. At least our master seniority list moves extremely rapidly. If that happened then SKW and Republic would be forced to close bases and deal with that mess that follows




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