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08-27-2019, 08:33 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by CrowneVic
I understand what it potentially going on at TSH/Compass, but why a flood from Mesa?
I am not familiar with what is taking place there??
I am not familiar with what is taking place there??
08-27-2019, 08:36 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
They haven’t had their UA contracts extended, so far at least, and AA has pulled a couple of jets due to poor performance. The UA contract is for 60 175s.
When are the UA contracts expiring?
Realistically, does UA even have anyone who can take over all of that flying?
That's a lot of flying to take on suddenly. About the same as ALL of our 175 flying.
08-27-2019, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CrowneVic
Ah.
When are the UA contracts expiring?
Realistically, does UA even have anyone who can take over all of that flying?
That's a lot of flying to take on suddenly. About the same as ALL of our 175 flying.
When are the UA contracts expiring?
Realistically, does UA even have anyone who can take over all of that flying?
That's a lot of flying to take on suddenly. About the same as ALL of our 175 flying.
Expressjet had a hiring target of 600 pilots for 2019, if that says anything. They have a 175 program starting and United owns half of them.
08-27-2019, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
They haven’t had their UA contracts extended, so far at least, and AA has pulled a couple of jets due to poor performance. The UA contract is for 60 175s.
Last edited by dera; 08-27-2019 at 09:11 AM.
08-27-2019, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
That flying probably is the hail mary Compass is going for.
The whole UAX portfolio is a disaster.
08-27-2019, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
That flying probably is the hail mary Compass is going for.
08-27-2019, 11:18 AM
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As of November AAG will have removed 7 CRJ900s from contract with Mesa. And Mesa has yet to have its contracts extended with United even though the date has come and gone. They’re basically month-to-month at this point.
Compass could win those United 175 contracts though personally I don’t think that will happen. Mesa’s UA 175 performance is actually quite good and they are comparatively cheap. I do think however that they are likely to lose their AAG CRJ900 flying and it will get divided up between PSA, Envoy, and SkyWest in PHX.
The likely culprit if Envoy is being primed for more 175s is the 20 aircraft that Compass are currently flying coming back in house to Envoy. That’s just my WAG. Though Mesa’s stock is down over 30% since the last quarter. So something is up over there...
Compass could win those United 175 contracts though personally I don’t think that will happen. Mesa’s UA 175 performance is actually quite good and they are comparatively cheap. I do think however that they are likely to lose their AAG CRJ900 flying and it will get divided up between PSA, Envoy, and SkyWest in PHX.
The likely culprit if Envoy is being primed for more 175s is the 20 aircraft that Compass are currently flying coming back in house to Envoy. That’s just my WAG. Though Mesa’s stock is down over 30% since the last quarter. So something is up over there...
08-27-2019, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
As of November AAG will have removed 7 CRJ900s from contract with Mesa. And Mesa has yet to have its contracts extended with United even though the date has come and gone. They’re basically month-to-month at this point.
Though Mesa’s stock is down over 30% since the last quarter. So something is up over there...
Though Mesa’s stock is down over 30% since the last quarter. So something is up over there...
The market is still unimpressed by Mesa today:
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