Year 1 & 2 FO take home , single
 

Ball park take home not including post IOE and 1 year bonus... Thank you.

How much are you planning to contribute to your 401k? Cheapest insurance? Where do you live?

Assuming you live in a state without a state income tax, expect reserve pay, 6% 401k, 12% federal tax, and the cheapest insurance to be roughly 1300 or 1400 per check. Lot of variables need to be answered to get a better number.

Thank you!

Is pay bi weekly or 1st and 15th?

15th and last business day of the month.

CA or FO? .....

Bro it says it in the title of the thread? .....

I got it covered.

I live in a state with state income tax and the middle health insurance package. Without picking up OT, I get around $2300/month take home. I’m on reserve, second year pay.

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.......Survivor

Lol, busted. RIP

How does one get by? I mean that rhetorical ly of course. That's far less than recruiters have been touting - that generally Y1 and 2 FO's are making almost $65K gross.

That's a disheartening low amount of pay and I get it that's the reality of the job. So I'm just waxxing out loud. I either go back to a career that pays six figures that I am burned out on at 55 or start over as an FO bringing home barely enough to cover my bare living expenses to commute . It's a tough choice for me!

I learned to fly in the Navy, and have always been a CFI on the side. I'd love to make jump to 121.

I admire you younger guys who are making the short term sacrifice and working hard to learn the industry for rewards later on!

I can’t find the pay breakout on the Envoy careers page and certainly not justifying the pay, but the numbers that recruiting publish include per diem, which you do see in monthly check, and as I recall it also Includes value of commuter hotels, and may include company contributions to insurance and 401k. Big one is the sign on bonus which has been restructured. Have to take what you have left over after taxes on that first one and stretch it out the first year.

Or you can live in your parents basement or find a spouse that can support your aviation habit. There’s a reason there is still a tight market of pilots willing to work for commuters. If you really want to fly for a living try a 135 place. If you’re 55, and don’t have another source of income, you might not see the return on flying for a commuter. You said you learned to fly in the Navy, if you have a few thousand Navy FW hours, a fresh 121 type and currency will likely get you a call to at least an LCC before too long. Just have to suck it up until then.

Former Helo Navy Helo guy with only 600 fixed wing hours, 4000 hours TT. You're right I may have to suck it up. Good reality check! I appreciate the info.

A lot of the military helo guys bounced to JetBlue and Spirit at around the 18-24 month mark at Envoy. You might be able to do it in a little less time given then fact you’re not entire helo.

Quick upgrade can help..... I live in Texas and my envoy FO checks (in training) are 17xx each time.

Now. That’s with increased per diem but also decreased MMG so ymmv.

Hoping to upgrade this go round or next

Also, my kids are all on wife’s insurance and I’m pretty healthy and don’t use flex accounts etc. so I don’t have a big of an expense there

I know it’s not great. It’s better than the 450 and 600 checks I was getting at XJT on reserve for three years.

Heads up, first couple of check out of training will be bad. Month after that the per diem will start to show up there and it will be a touch better

Year 1 & 2 FO take home , single
 

Marry up or live at home with mom and dad. Or just have a really good side hustle.

Or work OT.

OT in the 145 is not even worth it

Amen!!
Commute in for an ORF turn or the long RDU overnight worth 3.38. No thanks

If folks are struggling to pay their bills or get ahead in life, OT is a valid option. It's not all Waco turns. There is a bunch of good flying.

So how does the company make you specifically, happy?

Who ever said I wasn’t happy? 🤔
We were talking about OT on the 145.
As far as answering your question, my beefs with Envoy are minimal.
I come to work, do my job, go home and help the Union as much as possible. Occasionally I scratch my head at some of scheduling’s antics but all in all this beats working for a living 😁😁

The OT does suck around here. Hey, let’s do a 6 hour two day that isn’t commutable on either end. Or a 9 hour 3 day. That’s totally a productive use of my time off.

OT is only good if you are senior enough to get a chunky turn or two. Otherwise it’s 2-3 hr scraps.