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3400 10-22-2019 03:38 PM

Lga 175
 
According to both aa.com and AirPortal, the 175 will start turns between ORD-LGA starting January 7 2020.

Thoughts?

Paid2fly 10-22-2019 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 2910646)
According to both aa.com and AirPortal, the 175 will start turns between ORD-LGA starting January 7 2020.

Thoughts?




What's your point?

MD-11Loader 10-22-2019 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 2910646)
According to both aa.com and AirPortal, the 175 will start turns between ORD-LGA starting January 7 2020.

Thoughts?

Sounds like AA is shuffling things around to maximize efficiency on the 737/Airbus. It will be interesting to see how the captains who have never flown into LGA handle the Expressway Visual 31...be configured at the tanks.

dera 10-22-2019 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2910738)
Sounds like AA is shuffling things around to maximize efficiency on the 737/Airbus. It will be interesting to see how the captains who have never flown into LGA handle the Expressway Visual 31...be configured at the tanks.

I'd say if you can do the DCA river visual, the expressway isn't that hard. Its an ILS with a visual left traffic at the end.
We also do it in the sim.
It's challenging, but it's not that hard.

black cat 10-22-2019 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 2910646)
According to both aa.com and AirPortal, the 175 will start turns between ORD-LGA starting January 7 2020.

Thoughts?

More regionals doing hub to hub...outstanding.

Smgchi 10-22-2019 09:48 PM

Possibly due to the 737 Max still being grounded

MD-11Loader 10-23-2019 01:35 AM


Originally Posted by black cat (Post 2910766)
More regionals doing hub to hub...outstanding.

Unfortunately New York isn’t considered a hub for AA. It’s why PSA can do CLT-LGA and Republic has done MIA-LGA occasionally.

nimslow 10-23-2019 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2910747)
I'd say if you can do the DCA river visual, the expressway isn't that hard. Its an ILS with a visual left traffic at the end.
We also do it in the sim.
It's challenging, but it's not that hard.


It's no big deal, we used to hand fly it in the -80 all the time. Cross the Home Depot at 800', and you're in the groove.

Can that thing not do the RNAV-F?

TheRaven 10-23-2019 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by nimslow (Post 2911013)
It's no big deal, we used to hand fly it in the -80 all the time. Cross the Home Depot at 800', and you're in the groove.

Can that thing not do the RNAV-F?

The Home Depot is less than 4000 ft from the end of the runway.....I’d really like to see you cross it at 800 ft and land on 31.

nimslow 10-23-2019 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by TheRaven (Post 2911246)
The Home Depot is less than 4000 ft from the end of the runway.....I’d really like to see you cross it at 800 ft and land on 31.

There are two of them, the one right off the end of the runway is in College Point, you cross that one closer to 300', the other is in flushing, abeam Citi field right after you start the turn. Thats the one we would shoot for 800' abeam.

I haven't flown with anyone who does it with everything turned off in a long time. LNAV/VNAV all the way these days.

TheRaven 10-23-2019 06:36 PM

Never noticed the other Home Depot, but that sounds about right for altitude in that area. You learn something new every day.

smtx123 10-24-2019 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 2910646)
According to both aa.com and AirPortal, the 175 will start turns between ORD-LGA starting January 7 2020.

Thoughts?

Where on airportal do you see that? I know there’s a way to see the new places we’re flying to but couldn’t find it.

3400 10-24-2019 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by smtx123 (Post 2911861)
Where on airportal do you see that? I know there’s a way to see the new places we’re flying to but couldn’t find it.

Schedule Info > departure summary report

NoValueAviator 10-25-2019 05:57 AM

We are forced to fly it visually with nothing in the 140/145. No plate, nothing in the DB, and even if we had it no VNAV capability. Once in a great while someone goes around.

ViperCrosswind 10-25-2019 06:12 AM

This will make some for interesting trips. Maybe have 3 leg days in the middle again! “HUB to HUB” and such.

pitchattitude 10-25-2019 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by ViperCrosswind (Post 2912342)
This will make some for interesting trips. Maybe have 3 leg days in the middle again! “HUB to HUB” and such.

It will just be treated as any other outstation. But probably no overnights, just turns, would be my guess. But only a guess as I haven’t looked at any of the flights.

MD-11Loader 10-25-2019 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2912367)
It will just be treated as any other outstation. But probably no overnights, just turns, would be my guess. But only a guess as I haven’t looked at any of the flights.

It looks like three flights a day most of the time. I am sure they will be operated as a turn.

3400 10-26-2019 01:45 AM

Isn’t it in the AA scope that Envoy can’t fly hub to hub? Thought I heard that somewhere.

Crimson37Roger 10-26-2019 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 2912796)
Isn’t it in the AA scope that Envoy can’t fly hub to hub? Thought I heard that somewhere.


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2910891)
Unfortunately New York isn’t considered a hub for AA. It’s why PSA can do CLT-LGA and Republic has done MIA-LGA occasionally.


See above.

smtx123 10-26-2019 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 2912796)
Isn’t it in the AA scope that Envoy can’t fly hub to hub? Thought I heard that somewhere.

Really? But Skywest or Mesa can? Like PHX-LAX?

buddies8 10-26-2019 11:11 AM

Not sure on new scope but old scope allowed 10 percent of aa narrow bodies be flown by regional hub to hub.

Cyio 10-27-2019 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by smtx123 (Post 2913019)
Really? But Skywest or Mesa can? Like PHX-LAX?

The Mesa flight PHX to DFW is allowed once a day due to maintenance facilities. I think there are clauses to allow limited scope on things like this.

NoValueAviator 10-27-2019 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2913379)
The Mesa flight PHX to DFW.

Ah yes, aka “the jumpseat denier”

Tyrion 10-28-2019 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2913408)
Ah yes, aka “the jumpseat denier”

I make it a personal policy never to jumpseat on Mesa. I don't like listening to their stories about how unfair it was when they failed their training at Envoy, or Endeavor, or Expressjet, or GoJet, or....

AeroEnvoy 10-29-2019 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by smtx123 (Post 2913019)
Really? But Skywest or Mesa can? Like PHX-LAX?

They’re allowed under a grandfather clause from when they were flying for US Airways. It’s the same reason why Mesa was allowed to keep their 79 seat configuration on some of their CRJs.


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