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11-11-2019, 09:43 AM

#11

idlethrust

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Originally Posted by TiredSoul

Did they check the QRH?

Yep
Should have asked To see if there was a delta pilot on frequency to offer assistance.

11-11-2019, 10:37 AM

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imthecaptainnow

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They obviously didn’t read Swaynes article on icy runways..

https://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-...in-the-winter/

11-11-2019, 11:08 AM

#13

35Right

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Flightaware appears to show it going around on the first attempt.

Glad everyone made it off the plane safely. Let's keep the crew in our thoughts and realize things can happen to any of us.

11-11-2019, 11:14 AM

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TheRaven

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Originally Posted by imthecaptainnow

They obviously didn’t read Swaynes article on icy runways..

https://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-...in-the-winter/

I’m sure he has a vast wealth of knowledge to share, with his extensive experience operating on icy and snow covered runways since coming to the airlines.

11-11-2019, 11:18 AM

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oldrebel

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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator

Flap 22 landing on a contaminated runway?

Yes. Look at the winds. It’s a long runway and numbers work.

11-11-2019, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by oldrebel

Yes. Look at the winds. It’s a long runway and numbers work.

It isn't about numbers, but how flaps 45 helps the aircraft "plant” on the runway in crappy conditions.

11-11-2019, 12:43 PM

#17

HollandJ

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I wonder how junior the crew was. Hopefully it wasn't a forced DEC in the left with a RTP in the right seat.

Briefing sounded like this.....

CA:"Hey I've never landed on snow or ice have you?"

FO:"Me neither, hell I don't even know how to use the rudder"

CA:"Let's give it a shot, how hard can it be"

Last edited by HollandJ; 11-11-2019 at 12:58 PM.