Tell me about the training...
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Tell me about the training...
I’ve heard that systems training is computer based and people have done it from home. I’ve also heard training can be done in 60 days & they’ll fly you home if you have any breaks.
Anyone who’s been through recently - please discuss.
Anyone who’s been through recently - please discuss.
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The numbers may be off a bit, but that is the general time frame. As always there are outliers that will either shorten or lengthen that timeline considerably.
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You certainly wouldn't be doing your career any disservice by coming here.
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To get clear data call recruitment.
The training process is 5 steps
1 - Without an ATP you need to attend a CTP course with sims. This is done before you're on pay-roll. You're not getting paid, but they are paying for the hotels and the $7k the course cost. Before this you should study for your ATP written exam. You cannot take it until the CTP course is complete, however. The course is 7 days.
2 - Indoc. A week-ish of academics. The company flies to and from your home, puts in you in a hotel, pays you and you get per diem. It's basically endless briefs of "how to Envoy". This is capped with some security stuff.
3 - Systems Training CBT's - 10ish days of CBTs. About 4 hours of work a day takes care of you. Give them due dilligence.
4 - IPTs and Systems - About 10 days split with half the day on a "desktop trainer" of your aircraft working on flows, mechanics, and basic operating modes of the aircraft. The other half of the day are presentation on systems. You've already been introduced to them in the CBTs, but it's important to know your jet! At the end of this you take your ATP oral and do a procedure validation on the more advanced desktop trainer.
5 - Sims. 8 sims, two test sims. 4 hour periods with some brief and debrief before and after. The company again flies to you and from.
Personal thoughts - training was fairly thorough, and mostly adequate. It will never equal what you do "on the line" but I felt like it built a good base.
The training process is 5 steps
1 - Without an ATP you need to attend a CTP course with sims. This is done before you're on pay-roll. You're not getting paid, but they are paying for the hotels and the $7k the course cost. Before this you should study for your ATP written exam. You cannot take it until the CTP course is complete, however. The course is 7 days.
2 - Indoc. A week-ish of academics. The company flies to and from your home, puts in you in a hotel, pays you and you get per diem. It's basically endless briefs of "how to Envoy". This is capped with some security stuff.
3 - Systems Training CBT's - 10ish days of CBTs. About 4 hours of work a day takes care of you. Give them due dilligence.
4 - IPTs and Systems - About 10 days split with half the day on a "desktop trainer" of your aircraft working on flows, mechanics, and basic operating modes of the aircraft. The other half of the day are presentation on systems. You've already been introduced to them in the CBTs, but it's important to know your jet! At the end of this you take your ATP oral and do a procedure validation on the more advanced desktop trainer.
5 - Sims. 8 sims, two test sims. 4 hour periods with some brief and debrief before and after. The company again flies to you and from.
Personal thoughts - training was fairly thorough, and mostly adequate. It will never equal what you do "on the line" but I felt like it built a good base.
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Very thorough. Thanks!!
To get clear data call recruitment.
The training process is 5 steps
1 - Without an ATP you need to attend a CTP course with sims. This is done before you're on pay-roll. You're not getting paid, but they are paying for the hotels and the $7k the course cost. Before this you should study for your ATP written exam. You cannot take it until the CTP course is complete, however. The course is 7 days.
2 - Indoc. A week-ish of academics. The company flies to and from your home, puts in you in a hotel, pays you and you get per diem. It's basically endless briefs of "how to Envoy". This is capped with some security stuff.
3 - Systems Training CBT's - 10ish days of CBTs. About 4 hours of work a day takes care of you. Give them due dilligence.
4 - IPTs and Systems - About 10 days split with half the day on a "desktop trainer" of your aircraft working on flows, mechanics, and basic operating modes of the aircraft. The other half of the day are presentation on systems. You've already been introduced to them in the CBTs, but it's important to know your jet! At the end of this you take your ATP oral and do a procedure validation on the more advanced desktop trainer.
5 - Sims. 8 sims, two test sims. 4 hour periods with some brief and debrief before and after. The company again flies to you and from.
Personal thoughts - training was fairly thorough, and mostly adequate. It will never equal what you do "on the line" but I felt like it built a good base.
The training process is 5 steps
1 - Without an ATP you need to attend a CTP course with sims. This is done before you're on pay-roll. You're not getting paid, but they are paying for the hotels and the $7k the course cost. Before this you should study for your ATP written exam. You cannot take it until the CTP course is complete, however. The course is 7 days.
2 - Indoc. A week-ish of academics. The company flies to and from your home, puts in you in a hotel, pays you and you get per diem. It's basically endless briefs of "how to Envoy". This is capped with some security stuff.
3 - Systems Training CBT's - 10ish days of CBTs. About 4 hours of work a day takes care of you. Give them due dilligence.
4 - IPTs and Systems - About 10 days split with half the day on a "desktop trainer" of your aircraft working on flows, mechanics, and basic operating modes of the aircraft. The other half of the day are presentation on systems. You've already been introduced to them in the CBTs, but it's important to know your jet! At the end of this you take your ATP oral and do a procedure validation on the more advanced desktop trainer.
5 - Sims. 8 sims, two test sims. 4 hour periods with some brief and debrief before and after. The company again flies to you and from.
Personal thoughts - training was fairly thorough, and mostly adequate. It will never equal what you do "on the line" but I felt like it built a good base.
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To get clear data call recruitment.
The training process is 5 steps
1 - Without an ATP you need to attend a CTP course with sims. This is done before you're on pay-roll. You're not getting paid, but they are paying for the hotels and the $7k the course cost. Before this you should study for your ATP written exam. You cannot take it until the CTP course is complete, however. The course is 7 days.
2 - Indoc. A week-ish of academics. The company flies to and from your home, puts in you in a hotel, pays you and you get per diem. It's basically endless briefs of "how to Envoy". This is capped with some security stuff.
3 - Systems Training CBT's - 10ish days of CBTs. About 4 hours of work a day takes care of you. Give them due dilligence.
4 - IPTs and Systems - About 10 days split with half the day on a "desktop trainer" of your aircraft working on flows, mechanics, and basic operating modes of the aircraft. The other half of the day are presentation on systems. You've already been introduced to them in the CBTs, but it's important to know your jet! At the end of this you take your ATP oral and do a procedure validation on the more advanced desktop trainer.
5 - Sims. 8 sims, two test sims. 4 hour periods with some brief and debrief before and after. The company again flies to you and from.
Personal thoughts - training was fairly thorough, and mostly adequate. It will never equal what you do "on the line" but I felt like it built a good base.
The training process is 5 steps
1 - Without an ATP you need to attend a CTP course with sims. This is done before you're on pay-roll. You're not getting paid, but they are paying for the hotels and the $7k the course cost. Before this you should study for your ATP written exam. You cannot take it until the CTP course is complete, however. The course is 7 days.
2 - Indoc. A week-ish of academics. The company flies to and from your home, puts in you in a hotel, pays you and you get per diem. It's basically endless briefs of "how to Envoy". This is capped with some security stuff.
3 - Systems Training CBT's - 10ish days of CBTs. About 4 hours of work a day takes care of you. Give them due dilligence.
4 - IPTs and Systems - About 10 days split with half the day on a "desktop trainer" of your aircraft working on flows, mechanics, and basic operating modes of the aircraft. The other half of the day are presentation on systems. You've already been introduced to them in the CBTs, but it's important to know your jet! At the end of this you take your ATP oral and do a procedure validation on the more advanced desktop trainer.
5 - Sims. 8 sims, two test sims. 4 hour periods with some brief and debrief before and after. The company again flies to you and from.
Personal thoughts - training was fairly thorough, and mostly adequate. It will never equal what you do "on the line" but I felt like it built a good base.
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To get clear data call recruitment.
The training process is 5 steps
1 - Without an ATP you need to attend a CTP course with sims. This is done before you're on pay-roll. You're not getting paid, but they are paying for the hotels and the $7k the course cost. Before this you should study for your ATP written exam. You cannot take it until the CTP course is complete, however. The course is 7 days.
2 - Indoc. A week-ish of academics. The company flies to and from your home, puts in you in a hotel, pays you and you get per diem. It's basically endless briefs of "how to Envoy". This is capped with some security stuff.
3 - Systems Training CBT's - 10ish days of CBTs. About 4 hours of work a day takes care of you. Give them due dilligence.
4 - IPTs and Systems - About 10 days split with half the day on a "desktop trainer" of your aircraft working on flows, mechanics, and basic operating modes of the aircraft. The other half of the day are presentation on systems. You've already been introduced to them in the CBTs, but it's important to know your jet! At the end of this you take your ATP oral and do a procedure validation on the more advanced desktop trainer.
5 - Sims. 8 sims, two test sims. 4 hour periods with some brief and debrief before and after. The company again flies to you and from.
Personal thoughts - training was fairly thorough, and mostly adequate. It will never equal what you do "on the line" but I felt like it built a good base.
The training process is 5 steps
1 - Without an ATP you need to attend a CTP course with sims. This is done before you're on pay-roll. You're not getting paid, but they are paying for the hotels and the $7k the course cost. Before this you should study for your ATP written exam. You cannot take it until the CTP course is complete, however. The course is 7 days.
2 - Indoc. A week-ish of academics. The company flies to and from your home, puts in you in a hotel, pays you and you get per diem. It's basically endless briefs of "how to Envoy". This is capped with some security stuff.
3 - Systems Training CBT's - 10ish days of CBTs. About 4 hours of work a day takes care of you. Give them due dilligence.
4 - IPTs and Systems - About 10 days split with half the day on a "desktop trainer" of your aircraft working on flows, mechanics, and basic operating modes of the aircraft. The other half of the day are presentation on systems. You've already been introduced to them in the CBTs, but it's important to know your jet! At the end of this you take your ATP oral and do a procedure validation on the more advanced desktop trainer.
5 - Sims. 8 sims, two test sims. 4 hour periods with some brief and debrief before and after. The company again flies to you and from.
Personal thoughts - training was fairly thorough, and mostly adequate. It will never equal what you do "on the line" but I felt like it built a good base.
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