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Houpilot2001 11-23-2019 08:22 AM

ALPA to the rescue
 
http://www.alpa.org/xjt

slantgolf 11-24-2019 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Houpilot2001 (Post 2928907)
http://www.alpa.org/xjt

where was all this for envoy?

Tyrion 11-25-2019 01:35 PM

I hate that they include Envoy at 3.7 hrs for the min day comparison. it should be 0. We don't have a min day. Even 2 hours would be an improvement over our lost days and other soft pay that we don't get.

But it's their fight. I guess they are entitled. Half the people at Envoy think we have a min day pay.

Timbird 11-25-2019 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by slantgolf (Post 2929474)
where was all this for envoy?

Agree. Could have done so much more and envoy is a growing airline.

havick206 11-25-2019 05:32 PM

More importantly New Balance has a big sale on Velcro shoes right now.

highfarfast 11-25-2019 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Tyrion (Post 2929852)
Half the people at Envoy think we have a min day pay.

Half the people at the envoy think they get paid more for flying the E175 because that's what the APC profile says. After all, APC takes precedence to the contract, ya know.

CaseTractor 11-25-2019 06:17 PM

So where does the misnomer that Envoy has min day credit originate?

APC, or something obscure in contract that eludes to it in certain conditions, but doesn’t pay it?

pitchattitude 11-25-2019 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by CaseTractor (Post 2929977)
So where does the misnomer that Envoy has min day credit originate?

APC, or something obscure in contract that eludes to it in certain conditions, but doesn’t pay it?

There was something that was on a recruiting page that talked about the “min credit” of 3.9 hours per day. And that is true for reserve days, but not for lines. But why would recruiting let the truth get in the way. After all new hires will flow in 5.5-6 years.

Flytolive 11-26-2019 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by slantgolf (Post 2929474)
where was all this for envoy?

You should ask whoever was in the Envoy MEC and the committee structure at the time.

Tyrion 11-26-2019 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by CaseTractor (Post 2929977)
So where does the misnomer that Envoy has min day credit originate?

APC, or something obscure in contract that eludes to it in certain conditions, but doesn’t pay it?

It is mentioned in the contract about daily credit for things like how much sick time you will be charged, how much you will get paid for travel days to training, or how much time will be deducted if you drop a day. It is the average of the monthly guarantee divided out daily.

If it was a daily guarantee, we would get a lot more pay. I probably would have credited an additional 15 hours each month.


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