Considering Envoy
 

Good Evening Folks,
I was considering Envoy for the flow. How’s the reserve time on the 145 and the 175 ? Do i have a chance to get the 175 especially that they’re getting new ones this year ? I’ve heard talks about reserve system being not that good, is that true ? Also how many hours can you make on reserve (i’m a person willing to fly alot) ? And the captain upgrade times ?
Thanks in advance

Good evening

Who cares you're basically pretty much already American

As said in previous posts, reserve time fluctuates monthly. By the time you’re here on the line it will all be different. The last class had 15 175s and 8 145s. Usually if you’re a cadet or older in age then you have a very high chance of getting 175. Reserve is overall not great, if you commute it sucks the life out of you. If you live in base, it’s not too bad. Again hours flown on reserve fluctuates, as it depends on where you’re at on the list and how well staffed the base is. I remember flying 30ish hours on rsv when I started. CA upgrade times are currently whenever you can reach 1000 hrs 121 time. If you come in with 1000 hrs 121, should be able to upgrade very quickly. If you don’t have the time and have to build it here, expect around two years.

Average flow time now is 7-8 years, so i’m going to be stay there for a while and if QOL isn’t good there and i’ll be staying forever on reserve not flying then it’s not worth it.

i’m neither a cadet nor that old (mid 20s). I know the numbers fluctuate but what would you say the average reserve time is ? Like 1+ year ? Do you think it’s worth to wait +7 years for it ? Is it a work friendly environment?

This is why dacuj does propaganda like he does, cadets take him seriously

I can only speak for dfw 175, current line holder has been here for 9 months. maybe some other guys can chime in on their fleets. I’d say expect close to a year at this point. I’d say the flow is good for creating guaranteed movement, so as long as AA is hiring, at least 20 a month are leaving, moving you up. I don’t plan on staying for the flow, but anything can happen in this industry.

A year for reserve in dfw? I disagree, my buddy got awarded a solid line for two months now and was hired around 8 months ago. Maybe he’s lucky idk but he’s held a consistent line so far


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So you flow to AA and get stuck 2-5 years junior to 15000 people the same age as you or younger who won't quit until forced to, probably by mandatory retirement. Now what's your plan? The ship on the flow has sailed my friend. In my opinion it sailed in 2017.