Notices
Envoy Airlines Regional Airline

Considering Envoy

Old 01-13-2020, 05:50 PM
  #1  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Jan 2020
Posts: 26
Default Considering Envoy

Good Evening Folks,
I was considering Envoy for the flow. How’s the reserve time on the 145 and the 175 ? Do i have a chance to get the 175 especially that they’re getting new ones this year ? I’ve heard talks about reserve system being not that good, is that true ? Also how many hours can you make on reserve (i’m a person willing to fly alot) ? And the captain upgrade times ?
Thanks in advance
Monass74 is offline  
Old 01-13-2020, 06:08 PM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2019
Position: Yes
Posts: 159
Default

Good evening
povertyeagle is offline  
Old 01-13-2020, 06:56 PM
  #3  
New Hire
 
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 7
Default

Who cares you're basically pretty much already American
rkd19 is offline  
Old 01-13-2020, 07:02 PM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 194
Default

Originally Posted by Monass74 View Post
Good Evening Folks,
I was considering Envoy for the flow. How’s the reserve time on the 145 and the 175 ? Do i have a chance to get the 175 especially that they’re getting new ones this year ? I’ve heard talks about reserve system being not that good, is that true ? Also how many hours can you make on reserve (i’m a person willing to fly alot) ? And the captain upgrade times ?
Thanks in advance
As said in previous posts, reserve time fluctuates monthly. By the time you’re here on the line it will all be different. The last class had 15 175s and 8 145s. Usually if you’re a cadet or older in age then you have a very high chance of getting 175. Reserve is overall not great, if you commute it sucks the life out of you. If you live in base, it’s not too bad. Again hours flown on reserve fluctuates, as it depends on where you’re at on the list and how well staffed the base is. I remember flying 30ish hours on rsv when I started. CA upgrade times are currently whenever you can reach 1000 hrs 121 time. If you come in with 1000 hrs 121, should be able to upgrade very quickly. If you don’t have the time and have to build it here, expect around two years.
smtx123 is offline  
Old 01-13-2020, 07:26 PM
  #5  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Jan 2020
Posts: 26
Default

Originally Posted by rkd19 View Post
Who cares you're basically pretty much already American
Average flow time now is 7-8 years, so i’m going to be stay there for a while and if QOL isn’t good there and i’ll be staying forever on reserve not flying then it’s not worth it.
Monass74 is offline  
Old 01-13-2020, 07:31 PM
  #6  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Jan 2020
Posts: 26
Default

Originally Posted by smtx123 View Post
As said in previous posts, reserve time fluctuates monthly. By the time you’re here on the line it will all be different. The last class had 15 175s and 8 145s. Usually if you’re a cadet or older in age then you have a very high chance of getting 175. Reserve is overall not great, if you commute it sucks the life out of you. If you live in base, it’s not too bad. Again hours flown on reserve fluctuates, as it depends on where you’re at on the list and how well staffed the base is. I remember flying 30ish hours on rsv when I started. CA upgrade times are currently whenever you can reach 1000 hrs 121 time. If you come in with 1000 hrs 121, should be able to upgrade very quickly. If you don’t have the time and have to build it here, expect around two years.
i’m neither a cadet nor that old (mid 20s). I know the numbers fluctuate but what would you say the average reserve time is ? Like 1+ year ? Do you think it’s worth to wait +7 years for it ? Is it a work friendly environment?
Monass74 is offline  
Old 01-13-2020, 07:40 PM
  #7  
New Hire
 
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 7
Default

Originally Posted by Monass74 View Post
Average flow time now is 7-8 years, so i’m going to be stay there for a while and if QOL isn’t good there and i’ll be staying forever on reserve not flying then it’s not worth it.
This is why dacuj does propaganda like he does, cadets take him seriously
rkd19 is offline  
Old 01-13-2020, 08:25 PM
  #8  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 194
Default

Originally Posted by Monass74 View Post
i’m neither a cadet nor that old (mid 20s). I know the numbers fluctuate but what would you say the average reserve time is ? Like 1+ year ? Do you think it’s worth to wait +7 years for it ? Is it a work friendly environment?
I can only speak for dfw 175, current line holder has been here for 9 months. maybe some other guys can chime in on their fleets. I’d say expect close to a year at this point. I’d say the flow is good for creating guaranteed movement, so as long as AA is hiring, at least 20 a month are leaving, moving you up. I don’t plan on staying for the flow, but anything can happen in this industry.
smtx123 is offline  
Old 01-13-2020, 09:07 PM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 467
Default

Originally Posted by smtx123 View Post
I can only speak for dfw 175, current line holder has been here for 9 months. maybe some other guys can chime in on their fleets. I’d say expect close to a year at this point. I’d say the flow is good for creating guaranteed movement, so as long as AA is hiring, at least 20 a month are leaving, moving you up. I don’t plan on staying for the flow, but anything can happen in this industry.


A year for reserve in dfw? I disagree, my buddy got awarded a solid line for two months now and was hired around 8 months ago. Maybe he’s lucky idk but he’s held a consistent line so far


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
UncreativeUser is offline  
Old 01-14-2020, 06:56 PM
  #10  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: Resigned
Posts: 1,547
Default

So you flow to AA and get stuck 2-5 years junior to 15000 people the same age as you or younger who won't quit until forced to, probably by mandatory retirement. Now what's your plan? The ship on the flow has sailed my friend. In my opinion it sailed in 2017.
NoValueAviator is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Jland0413
Envoy Airlines
31
08-27-2016 07:03 PM
Alex14
Envoy Airlines
1680
02-19-2016 04:19 PM
3inthegreen
Compass Airlines
130
04-14-2015 03:44 PM
Romulus
Envoy Airlines
15
10-14-2014 06:34 PM
DFWEMB
Envoy Airlines
48
02-03-2014 09:52 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices