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With CPZ shutting April 7th, does anybody at Envoy have info as to who will pick up the flying, or whether it will be picked up at all?
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Originally Posted by aquagreen73s
(Post 3005396)
With CPZ shutting April 7th, does anybody at Envoy have info as to who will pick up the flying, or whether it will be picked up at all?
Likely capacity is just cut and SKW is covering what they already had. Maybe they have had some shifts. I haven’t checked their forum and don’t know any SKW guys that fly AA stuff out of LAX. |
Originally Posted by aquagreen73s
(Post 3005396)
With CPZ shutting April 7th, does anybody at Envoy have info as to who will pick up the flying, or whether it will be picked up at all?
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Originally Posted by smtx123
(Post 3005610)
I doubt anyone knows what’s gonna happen, CPZ is still in the travel planner doing LAX stuff in April and through the year.
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Originally Posted by stillcantfly
(Post 3006392)
id guess sky everywhere will....
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Any idea what will happen out in LAX? I know Skywest ordered those 20 175s, but is now planning to shrink. With the compass planes coming to ENY is LAX a possibility? If you look at the travel planner for the fall many of those flights are still or are exclusively “operated by compass airlines”.
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Originally Posted by aquagreen73s
(Post 3005396)
With CPZ shutting April 7th, does anybody at Envoy have info as to who will pick up the flying, or whether it will be picked up at all?
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Originally Posted by FUPMEagle
(Post 3049410)
Lol, with the current environment AA isn't going to spend the money to put anyone out there. If anything they are looking to cut in more areas. NY and MIA will likely close like last bankruptcy.
While I agree with you that they won’t invest in a new base right now, I doubt they are going to be closing bases in the near future (next few months). It would trigger a cascade of displacements and training events that they could probably live without right now. A proactive stance might displace and train everyone now since they don’t really need us on the line anyway, but I think management is in penny pinching mode, not proactive mode. |
I think Envoy needs to figure out when to have an aircraft displacement bid. 22 140's aren't coming back from the desert and 20 Compass planes along with 11 new-builds are coming in the next year. Seems like the instructors being displaced back to the line won't be there for long, especially the ones who are on the heavy. In order to staff them, they are going to have to make a move in the next couple of months. Deliveries from Embraer start again in the 4th quarter, according to the email last week.
LAX might see fly through if AA opts to keep it as a Trans-Pac gateway, but opening a full base would be pretty expensive. In addition to pilots, you also need flight attendants, as well as mechanics and spare parts. |
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Originally Posted by blackbox348
(Post 3049402)
Any idea what will happen out in LAX? I know Skywest ordered those 20 175s, but is now planning to shrink. With the compass planes coming to ENY is LAX a possibility? If you look at the travel planner for the fall many of those flights are still or are exclusively “operated by compass airlines”.
Compass is coming back. A friend of a friend of my neighbors gynecologist said they just hired a Chief Pilot for LAX Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
(Post 3049579)
LAX might see fly through if AA opts to keep it as a Trans-Pac gateway, but opening a full base would be pretty expensive. In addition to pilots, you also need flight attendants, as well as mechanics and spare parts.
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Originally Posted by But seriously
(Post 3049558)
While I agree with you that they won’t invest in a new base right now, I doubt they are going to be closing bases in the near future (next few months). It would trigger a cascade of displacements and training events that they could probably live without right now.
A proactive stance might displace and train everyone now since they don’t really need us on the line anyway, but I think management is in penny pinching mode, not proactive mode. |
Originally Posted by Av8rPHX
(Post 3049644)
Compass is coming back. A friend of a friend of my neighbors gynecologist said they just hired a Chief Pilot for LAX
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These ex CPZ birds WILL fly into LA one way or the other. It might be fly through initially but I fully expect a base at some point after the crisis passes and bookings are on an upward trend. LA is far too valuable for AA to walk away from and to have their #1 feed provider doing the flying is going to happen.
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Originally Posted by THKooj
(Post 3049764)
These ex CPZ birds WILL fly into LA one way or the other. It might be fly through initially but I fully expect a base at some point after the crisis passes and bookings are on an upward trend. LA is far too valuable for AA to walk away from and to have their #1 feed provider doing the flying is going to happen.
it’s worked so far. |
Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
(Post 3049811)
I just read what this moron posts and interpret it as the exact opposite.
it’s worked so far. |
LA flying will most likely be done by Skywest as AAG will continue to outsource when able to save a dime. Mesa will stay in the area for whipsaw purposes to keep Skywest in check. Envoy will be around for filler, but the probability of Envoy opening a base in LA is significantly lower than the probability of THKooj getting a lengthy furlough.
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Originally Posted by Tyrion
(Post 3049961)
LA flying will most likely be done by Skywest as AAG will continue to outsource when able to save a dime. Mesa will stay in the area for whipsaw purposes to keep Skywest in check. Envoy will be around for filler, but the probability of Envoy opening a base in LA is significantly lower than the probability of THKooj getting a lengthy furlough.
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