Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3015884)

The point I was trying to make is that AA and APA and Envoy management can't just do it. WE would have to approve it here as would those at the other WO separately. Been seeing a few posts in various threads that seem to indicate some people think flowbacks can become a thing without our agreeing to it.

But I will say to the point your making about my choice of words:
Our MEC has shown in the past to have a significantly different view on what is a significant change. Current leadership has so far been a bit more transparent than in the past so perhaps that will be different going forward. We'll see.

Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3016280)

They'd face an immediate lawsuit, DFR and injunction from current Envoy Pilots, most of whom would be displaced, CA to FO, and FO to furloughed.

Originally Posted by blackbox348 (Post 3012825)

Do we have furlough protection from the bailout? I’ve heard different things.

Originally Posted by wwood (Post 3017888)

Has anyone figured this out yet? Do wholly owned have the October 1st furlough protection if mainline take the grants? Can regionals apply directly for the grants?

Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3017988)

There are news stories circulating that state an email was sent to AA pilots stating Parker intended to take the bailouts that protected their jobs. I do find it curious that we have not gotten any such email. Maybe it means nothing maybe it means something. I dunno. I don't think we're out of the woods for sure until Envoy starts new hire classes again.

Originally Posted by dera (Post 3017991)

Isom and Parker sent out an email to AA team members saying they are applying for it.
This happened today so Envoy hasn't had a chance to evaluate the situation yet.
"We intend to apply for these funds and are confident that, along with our relatively high available cash position, they will allow us to fly through even the worst of potential future scenarios. Importantly to our team members, these funds include payroll assistance that ensures no involuntary furloughs or cuts in pay rates or benefits for the next six months."

Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3017992)

None of that refutes what I said.

Originally Posted by dera (Post 3017994)

I wasn't refuting anything you said, just provided the text that AA sent to their guys.

Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3017988)

I do find it curious that we have not gotten any such email.

Originally Posted by But seriously (Post 3013450)

I’m not sure how specifically the law will be interpreted on this case, but PR risk for AAG is probably larger than its worth. The cost savings of furloughing a few hundred or even a thousand or two regional pilots is minimal compared to the risk of coming under fire for taking government money and then furloughing under some loophole corporate structure.

Obviously, this is just my opinion, but I doubt this is the last help AAG will need from Congress before this nightmare is over. I don’t think they want to bite the hand that feeds them right now.