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dera 03-30-2020 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 3017763)
It's already signed

Of course it isn't. This is the 10 day posting period.

havick206 03-30-2020 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by WillFlyForeFood (Post 3017773)
The problem is, you need enough volunteers willing to be able to stay at home for a measly 19 hours. If not enough ppl are willing to live off of 19 hours well then this didn't save any money and potentially furloughs are the next step...

Just out of curiosity, how much does unemployment pay by way of comparison to 19 credit hours if you get furloughed?

honest question, No intent to stir the pot here, I have no idea.

Exupery 03-30-2020 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3017782)
Of course it isn't. This is the 10 day posting period.

So the April 3 submission deadline in the Company e-mail blast doesn't apply?

It would be nice to see what the May bid package is going to look like first. Part-time lines would probably beat 19 hours.

buddies8 03-30-2020 05:29 PM

Envoy is offering 19 hours.
mesa is offering 10 hours
republic is offering 50 hours
slywest is offering 50 hours
my guess psa took 18 hours and is keeping hush hush.
remember aag is paying skw and rah for feed which supports 50 hour loa pay while here at envoy they offer you 19 so aag can pay rah and skw tp cover there 50 hour loa pay.

no one should take loa, first loa has to many requirements, second why help envoy out. It's not like they are not going to furlough, aa most definitely will.

Cyio 03-30-2020 05:36 PM

For those saying this doesn’t effect anyone if it isn’t right for you, please lol at the big picture. If enough people settle for this low ball offer it inhibits better offers down the road. You can’t just set the bar low.

dera 03-30-2020 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3017816)
Envoy is offering 19 hours.
mesa is offering 10 hours
republic is offering 50 hours
slywest is offering 50 hours
my guess psa took 18 hours and is keeping hush hush.
remember aag is paying skw and rah for feed which supports 50 hour loa pay while here at envoy they offer you 19 so aag can pay rah and skw tp cover there 50 hour loa pay.

no one should take loa, first loa has to many requirements, second why help envoy out. It's not like they are not going to furlough, aa most definitely will.

Skywest and Republic accepted pay cuts for every pilot on property in exchange of that deal. Don't forget that little snippet.

dera 03-30-2020 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Exupery (Post 3017806)
So the April 3 submission deadline in the Company e-mail blast doesn't apply?

It would be nice to see what the May bid package is going to look like first. Part-time lines would probably beat 19 hours.

No it doesn't. That's why the email says "non-crewmembers".

rld1k 03-30-2020 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3017846)
Skywest and Republic accepted pay cuts for every pilot on property in exchange of that deal. Don't forget that little snippet.

Mesa also took pay concessions. This deal looks better knowing that.

RJDriver900 03-30-2020 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3017816)
Envoy is offering 19 hours.
mesa is offering 10 hours
republic is offering 50 hours
slywest is offering 50 hours
my guess psa took 18 hours and is keeping hush hush.
remember aag is paying skw and rah for feed which supports 50 hour loa pay while here at envoy they offer you 19 so aag can pay rah and skw tp cover there 50 hour loa pay.

no one should take loa, first loa has to many requirements, second why help envoy out. It's not like they are not going to furlough, aa most definitely will.

You guys over at Envoy really have a hard on about PSA. First the thread from last week saying PSA scabs better not ask for my jumpseat etc. before it got deleted...

NoValueAviator 03-30-2020 06:27 PM

PSA took zero hours and is going to be accepting 2 Envoy 175s a month thru 2022.


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