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pitchattitude 06-01-2020 12:36 PM

Training Flow Plan
 
Anyone know if there are many people left in the training pipeline? Based on the last flow plan, which is more than six weeks old, all but any stragglers should be done.

Also, wasn’t there a small group that had been through INDOC but not started systems. That seems to be supported on the flow plan as well. What’s their status?

ClappedOut145 06-01-2020 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3068438)
Anyone know if there are many people left in the training pipeline? Based on the last flow plan, which is more than six weeks old, all but any stragglers should be done.

Also, wasn’t there a small group that had been through INDOC but not started systems. That seems to be supported on the flow plan as well. What’s their status?

Their status is paid at home, accruing seniority, and watching probation tick by. If they are 145 pilots I would be willing to bet that they will be called back and displaced tot he 175. More 145 instructors were just sent back to the line, so I would imagine that the pipeline on that aircraft is about cleared out.

Cyio 06-01-2020 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3068497)
Their status is paid at home, accruing seniority, and watching probation tick by. If they are 145 pilots I would be willing to bet that they will be called back and displaced tot he 175. More 145 instructors were just sent back to the line, so I would imagine that the pipeline on that aircraft is about cleared out.

Most of the 175 instructors went back to the line as well.

But seriously 06-01-2020 03:00 PM

There would be plenty of lead time to get the instructors back in place if they did a large displacement. They have to announce it, run it, put out a Flow Plan, Ground School, etc. There’d be at least a month or two before before the hordes start hitting the sims.

ClappedOut145 06-01-2020 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3068503)
Most of the 175 instructors went back to the line as well.

I heard that the majority of the 145 instructors are displacing to the 175. DFW just got a fair bit more senior.

pitchattitude 06-01-2020 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3068512)
I heard that the majority of the 145 instructors are displacing to the 175. DFW just got a fair bit more senior.

Makes sense. Also puts a few 175 instructors to work.

pitchattitude 06-01-2020 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3068497)
Their status is paid at home, accruing seniority, and watching probation tick by. If they are 145 pilots I would be willing to bet that they will be called back and displaced tot he 175. More 145 instructors were just sent back to the line, so I would imagine that the pipeline on that aircraft is about cleared out.

Looks like about a half dozen of each 145 and 175 that are sitting.

MqWhistleblower 06-01-2020 07:20 PM

Envoy doesn’t wanna pay 90+ hrs for a sim instructor to be sitting at home-and it makes sense!

UncreativeUser 06-03-2020 04:47 AM

Buddy in the school house headed they may start upgrading in July starting with displaced captains. Obviously, take that with a gran of salt but still nice to here some positive news


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Varsity 06-03-2020 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by UncreativeUser (Post 3069306)
Buddy in the school house headed they may start upgrading in July starting with displaced captains. Obviously, take that with a gran of salt but still nice to here some positive news


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Displaced captains?

ClappedOut145 06-03-2020 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 3069546)
Displaced captains?

A large number of sim instructors have been sent back to the line and they will be moving to the 175. DCL just got more senior. Maybe that's what he is referring to.

UncreativeUser 06-03-2020 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3069573)
A large number of sim instructors have been sent back to the line and they will be moving to the 175. DCL just got more senior. Maybe that's what he is referring to.


Thank you ^^


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THKooj 06-04-2020 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3069573)
A large number of sim instructors have been sent back to the line and they will be moving to the 175. DCL just got more senior. Maybe that's what he is referring to.

DCL baby! The premo spot at The Voy!

nootpilot 06-05-2020 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3070010)
DCL baby! The premo spot at The Voy!

The Voy will grow, and the Scope will be modified, if not killed.

E175 = “The Mainline Killer”

AB321Driver 06-05-2020 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by nootpilot (Post 3070403)
The Voy will grow, and the Scope will be modified, if not killed.

E175 = “The Mainline Killer”


Highly doubted. You see, the new young breed of AA pilot will defend SCOPE till the end as the old guard retiring at a fast pace. So, for now close your eyes and make yourself believe that you are at mainline while flying your Ejet to AMA.

Dream on.

NoValueAviator 06-07-2020 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by AB321Driver (Post 3070674)
Highly doubted. You see, the new young breed of AA pilot will defend SCOPE till the end as the old guard retiring at a fast pace. So, for now close your eyes and make yourself believe that you are at mainline while flying your Ejet to AMA.

Dream on.

Based on the hostile tone of your post, I think you have a disproportionate emotional response to the scope issue that isn't shared by many of your colleagues.

The reality is that there is a lot of room for improvement in the AA contract (although it is obviously orders of magnitude better than any regional deal), and it's entirely possible that scope relief is offered up to realize that improvement. I seriously doubt you'd vote against huge sweeping improvements for yourself just because it's going to make it harder for other guys.

Besides that, if you really have the contempt for regional pilots that you express in your post, shouldn't you want to strand as many as possible in the regional sweatshop? Scope relief is how you do that.


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