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07-08-2020, 08:36 PM
#161
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Originally Posted by AV8R72
we keep hearing they are going to offer more CSLOAs, in hope of mitigating furloughs. If they told us the number of furloughs projected and left the CSLOA option open I think enough people who could do something else for a year, would
I think the plan is to offer better CSLOA's. But before they are negotiated, they can't be offered.
07-08-2020, 08:58 PM
#162
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The big issue with the last company-subsidized leave of absence is that it required pilots to attend recurrent. While I completely understand the purpose in keeping the pilot on an active status with the company, it's problematic in that if the goal is to allow pilots to pursue other jobs in the interim, they now have competing interests for schedules in order to take time to go through ground school and sims.
Is the only work around for this to go on some sort of inactive, unpaid status (assuming the company offers it)?
Is the only work around for this to go on some sort of inactive, unpaid status (assuming the company offers it)?
07-08-2020, 09:05 PM
#163
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Originally Posted by 6ix9ineYearFlow
The big issue with the last company-subsidized leave of absence is that it required pilots to attend recurrent. While I completely understand the purpose in keeping the pilot on an active status with the company, it's problematic in that if the goal is to allow pilots to pursue other jobs in the interim, they now have competing interests for schedules in order to take time to go through ground school and sims.
Is the only work around for this to go on some sort of inactive, unpaid status (assuming the company offers it)?
Is the only work around for this to go on some sort of inactive, unpaid status (assuming the company offers it)?
I think the inactive, unpaid status would be called a furlough ?
07-08-2020, 09:16 PM
#164
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Originally Posted by AV8R72
RC is only a few days, I think most professionals can work around it.
I think the inactive, unpaid status would be called a furlough ?
I think the inactive, unpaid status would be called a furlough ?
And there are options for inactive, unpaid status than other than a furlough if the company chooses to allow it. It may take an LOA, because it’s my understanding there is not something already in our CBA, but someone more senior should have the option to take a VOLUNTARY leave of absence, even if unpaid, instead of INVOLUNTARY furlough of someone junior. Almost like a proffer to displace, but that may imply an undefined period of time.
07-09-2020, 09:40 AM
#166
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Recurrent is a double edged sword. Some pilots credited ~60ish hours for a month of CSLOA through recurrent.
07-09-2020, 09:56 AM
#167
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
How was that? I was told I would only receive something like 11.7 hours for the sim and nothing for the CBTs. I chose not to take the CSLOA for the month for that reason. Sat on reserve not flying for the month, but still no pay for the CBTs either.
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