Here comes PHX
 

Envoy 175 ops from PHX start on December 17th with turns from LIT.

It’s not much, but hopefully it’s a start.

Yeah, and PDT ops from ORD go in DEC too; what’s your point? It’s just the usual AAG regional feed shuffle and nothing more.

ENY has done through flights at DCA and CLT. I don’t think either will happen in December. Again, it’s just the AAG shuffle.

Could that be an indicator on the future of the Mesa contract? I understand it begins to expire in January.

It could but it's probably a nothingburger.

More like skw. Aag just signed another contract for an additional 20 crj 700"s with them.

Old news but good news. It's no secret that AAG wants Envoy everywhere they can have them. Our 175 fleet is climbing but everyone knows that with a vast network like AAG has, it's impossible to have Envoy cover everything. Getting that foot in the door so to speak is a good harbinger of things to come out west. I wouldn't be surprised to see Envoy at 25 daily departures at PHX a year from now.

Wants envoy everywhere, but closes New York.. sure buddy

Puff puff pass
“Our”175 fleet?
You don’t work for envoy.
Are you even working for AA, or are you furloughed and left with nothing else to do but troll Internet forums where you are the laughing stock on every thread you comment on?

LMAO oh wow. Whatever is wrong with you is no small thing.

Right thats why republic is doing ord bos turns.

Every month Republic captures a few Envoy routes in ORD.

Pretty much exactly what happened in NY all over again. I for one look forward to the 1x free beer at the Atrium.

prefer the beer before flight.

Heck they’re bigger in Charlotte than they were before COVID

Guess no one saw the Mesa contract was renewed and the December schedule is up as well for Mesa going to be a interesting few months.

Think we'll get stapled to the bottom of their list when they buy Envoy out of the AA Ch. 11?

Their December schedule looks pretty level to me, they’re around 70 a day in DFW and Envoy is around 250 a day. It’s looking to stay that way out past February of 21.

Combine those numbers with SkyWest and PSA, eagle ops are around 400 per day at DFW.

Under the terms of the renewed CPA, Mesa Airlines will operate forty CRJ900s under the American Eagle brand. American Airlines will have the option to withdraw up to 10 aircraft during calendar year 2021 (although in the first half of the year, only if it also reduces its mainline fleet), five aircraft during each of calendar years 2022 and 2023, and during the period from January 1, 2024, to July 31, 2024, American can remove the first 20 aircraft to the extent not otherwise removed in 2021-2023. The last 20 aircraft can be withdrawn after July 31, 2024.

The current CPA between American Airlines and Mesa Airlines covers forty-seven CRJ900s. Under the agreement, the first 30 were due to expire in 2021 and the remaining 17 during 2022.

According to the ch-aviation fleets advanced module, Mesa Airlines operates a total of sixty-four CRJ900s, all of them used for American Eagle flying. It owns 48 of these aircraft and dry-leases the remaining units from Bombardier Services (15) and Aviator Capital (one). The airline does not operate any other aircraft on behalf of American Airlines.

American Airlines also subcontracts its CRJ900 operations to its subsidiary PSA Airlines (OH, Dayton James M. Cox).

64 airplanes to operate a 40 airplane CPA and they still have some of the worst performing flights?

I don't disagree. Why do you think AAG is reducing their contract? Hint. Slowly weeding them out. Who do you think is going to replace that capacity? Another hint. Look at which forum you are in.

I didn't know that they spelled Skywest E-N-V-O-Y.

That's why skywest signed with aag to extend contract for 700's, the a new contract for 20 more 700's and on top of that 20 e175's were signed.
thats why republic is back in ord and were out of NY while republic picks up east coast flying.

I think Republic will take the NY area coupled with jetBlue blue but we’d probably return to ORD and maybe do some kind of mixed flying with republic out of MIA until the slight chance we get EOW/ETOPS equipped. PHX is something I always thought we’d might get during the LAX rumor since SKW runs a monopoly out there essentially now at this point. But now that they took 20 CRJs and with 40 Mesa CRJ’s I don’t know how we will ever get that as a base. Frustrating since we always perform really good but cost always wins.


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EOW and ETOPS are two different things.

Ok I’ll rephrase, let’s say ENY shoves life rafts into the airplane to get EOW or gets certified to fly longer than 60 minutes from an adequate airport to become ETOPS certified. Trying to avoid a knowledge ****ing match here fellas just a discussion on future bases!


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EOW doesn't require rafts. It's a relatively easy op spec to get. Life vests (seats already have the holders), safety briefing card and tape, and FAA approved dispatch procedures with a few observation runs.
It's not a "slight chance" for Envoy to get it, it's already in the works.

Just.... nevermind lol


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I have to agree, as much as it pains me to say so. I would love to have a west coast base with PHX being a great option as well, however, don't see it in the near future. Skywest and Mesa just have all the flying, I don't see how we would fit in. Too bad really, would be nice to fly in that part of the country more often.

We do PHX overnights in January.

I was referring more to it as a crew base.

Oh ok, I dont see that happening any time soon. We just picked up a few former Mesa routes in/out of PHX thats all.

Out of curiosity what cities are we doing the overnights from? Just Little Rock?

The slides on the E175 are life rafts ..

FYI there are only 2 or 3 Republic routes out of Miami that require EOW

Also Memphis.