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Old 08-03-2021, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude View Post
I WAS thinking globally. That’s why I included PDT. Most people have written them off as an “also ran” that will fall by the wayside. But American has to do something with those seat capabilities.

The only vendor, singular, that could, and likely will go away, is Mesa, at the end of their contract. Skywest and Republic aren’t going anywhere.
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Old 08-03-2021, 08:54 AM
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Almost a year old for a five year contract. Daddy Dougie’s days at American are numbered and when he leaves, Mesa loses it champion at AAG.

Like I said, Skywest and Republic aren’t going anywhere. If someone gets cut it will be Mesa.
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The reality is what ever you make of it. Some would say going from 60 odd planes to 40 is a negative. A positive for Mesa in this deal is AA asked them to keep flying more than 40 for the time being.
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Old 08-03-2021, 11:26 AM
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Who owns Mesa's 900's?
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Old 08-03-2021, 03:51 PM
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Thatsok, skw is adding 40 crj700's for aag and rah at least 20 e170's for aag.
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Thatsok, skw is adding 40 crj700's for aag and rah at least 20 e170's for aag.
I think you might be mixing information. Thought it was something like 20 CRJs that SKW already owned and 25 175s they were purchasing. RAH got the six new planes that were sold off under cover of darkness and swapped in place of the 170s but haven’t heard of any more than that for RAH.

But still both indications that they will continue to fly for AAG, long after Mesa and probably PDT as well.
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Originally Posted by CptnDave View Post
Who owns Mesa's 900's?
There were about a half dozen the were leased from AAG. Not sure what the status of this panes are anymore.
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Old 08-03-2021, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude View Post
I think you might be mixing information. Thought it was something like 20 CRJs that SKW already owned and 25 175s they were purchasing. RAH got the six new planes that were sold off under cover of darkness and swapped in place of the 170s but haven’t heard of any more than that for RAH.

But still both indications that they will continue to fly for AAG, long after Mesa and probably PDT as well.
20 175s at SkyWest
As of today, 21 more -700s from SkyWest
16 170s coming in from Republic
6 175s recently loaded from Republic (former MQ)
7 170s for Envoy.

The 6 175s at RPA and 7 170s at the Voy were different transactions.

Also keep in mind Republic has 38 more 170s on the United ticket that could someday make their way to AA ops.
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Old 08-03-2021, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 3400 View Post
20 175s at SkyWest
As of today, 21 more -700s from SkyWest
16 170s coming in from Republic
6 175s recently loaded from Republic (former MQ)
7 170s for Envoy.

The 6 175s at RPA and 7 170s at the Voy were different transactions.

Also keep in mind Republic has 38 more 170s on the United ticket that could someday make their way to AA ops.
What are you saying here? 16 170s from Republic where? Are you saying these are planes that will all be flown for AAG? But by who? You’re throwing numbers and carriers out but not really making sense of what is going where.

The six most recent 175s that Republic just bought to fly for AAG we’re all set to come to ENY. AAG saw a way to save some cash during the pandemic and let RAH buy them. The six 170s from CityFlyer may have been a separate transactions but they were very much tied to each other in terms of what AAG is was to send ENY. The seventh 170 was not part of the CityFlyer deal.
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They recently signed an additional 20 crj700's
but who cares we got 6 e170's instead and parking untold e145's.
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