Envoy 2021: A New Hope
08-05-2021, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
All of those vendors' UA sides (including Mesa) will outlive C5.
Republic's AA flying will outlive PDT. Based on the life of the CRJ, Republic might outlive PSA, too.
Skywest will grow in lieu of Horizon. It will grow in lieu of Alaska, for what it's worth.
Republic's AA flying will outlive PDT. Based on the life of the CRJ, Republic might outlive PSA, too.
Skywest will grow in lieu of Horizon. It will grow in lieu of Alaska, for what it's worth.
2nd- agree. Very likely AA WO’s will end up consolidated
3rd- disagree.
08-07-2021, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
Curious... why? Alaska has no scope, and the Horizon C-suite has proved that it can't manage a ham sandwich, never mind an airline.
08-07-2021, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
no regionals will be growing.
08-08-2021, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
Unless there is a consolidation, buyout, or replacement of another regional, what you say is true. I expect several regionals to wink out in the next couple of years. If you read back far enough in my posts, I predicted this several years ago.
called BigSky, Lakes, TSA & Compass all over a year in advance. I do remember your posts warning folks of the same things.
08-08-2021, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
I called it back in 2013-2014 that this was coming. It started in mid 2015 and was about to go full tilt when Covid gave them time to regroup and restructure; they wasted the opportunity and now it’s going to be interesting once the backlog of guys that hit 1500 this past 1.5 years get sucked up, because there aren’t enough coming in behind them for all the hiring at all four 121 levels. Regional, ACMI, LCC & Legacy. It’s a staffing crunch of their own creating.
called BigSky, Lakes, TSA & Compass all over a year in advance. I do remember your posts warning folks of the same things.
called BigSky, Lakes, TSA & Compass all over a year in advance. I do remember your posts warning folks of the same things.
08-08-2021, 05:45 AM
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Regionals shrink, 50 seaters go away, more pilots move to legacy carriers, regionals operate 76 seaters on the same routes at lower frequency. Around the same amount of people get moved. This solves staffing issues at majors without draining all their regionals of pilots.
08-08-2021, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by havick206
Pretty much everyone else called it too. Would you like a participation trophy?
you may have been agreeing with what we were saying, but to say everybody was saying it is false. There’s still large numbers of management and even union leaders who say there’s no shortage.
08-08-2021, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by havick206
Pretty much everyone else called it too. Would you like a participation trophy?
What I said we would go down to 1/4 of the number of regionals (already lost 5, with 1 trying to take off again), and 1/2 the number of regional pilots (20,000 down to 10,000).
50 seaters will reduce to very few. 76 seaters will fly those routes with less frequency.
76 seaters will be replaced by main line aircraft in some services, generally less frequency.
I stand by my prediction. Will occur by mid decade.
Hold on tight, we are about to kick in the afterburners.
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