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Ddts 01-24-2022 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3359207)
Every co-pilot in my Reserve squadron is going to Republic. Not sure about the civ/91 side, but any young, 750 to 1500 hour reserve guy I know got picked up at a regional. The regionals will change, no doubt, but there are plenty of young guys/gals at the beginning of their careers that are catching the wave too, albeit at the regional level.

Doesn't matter if they don't stay long enough to upgrade

CRJdriver2017 01-25-2022 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot (Post 3359157)
Just found out that a new hire class at United a few weeks ago had 64 pilots in it and 12 of them had come from Envoy. Apparently more pilots are being hired to United from Envoy than to AA. This doesn’t include the 2 pilots in the class that were at AA and left to come to United. Not sure why the flow through isn’t better, but my guess is that AA can’t replace the WO pilots fast enough, so they don’t want to cannibalize their own pilot group. Its almost unthinkable that they’d want to hire ANY of the WO pilots to AA since its causing unintended consequences.

Yup. PSA CA here. Latest numbers said 52 pilots lost in Dec. 10 flowed to AA, zero went to AA outside of the flow...and 42 went elsewhere.

FlyingSlowly 01-27-2022 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3352208)
Great is what we’re going for…

"Connecting People. Uniting the World."

(doesn't that sound better?...)

buddies8 01-27-2022 08:57 AM

Define great...........

highfarfast 01-27-2022 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3360970)
Define great...........

It's that thing you go for.

NoValueAviator 01-27-2022 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3360970)
Define great...........

Something only diverse Republic and Skywest pilots can achieve apparently considering all the WOs were stonewalled from AA's ORD hiring event.

highfarfast 01-27-2022 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3361030)
Something only diverse Republic and Skywest pilots can achieve apparently considering all the WOs were stonewalled from AA's ORD hiring event.

Really? I'd like to know more about this.

pitchattitude 01-27-2022 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3361030)
Something only diverse Republic and Skywest pilots can achieve apparently considering all the WOs were stonewalled from AA's ORD hiring event.

No point in inviting WO pilots if they don’t plan to hire them outside the flow anyway.

highfarfast 01-27-2022 01:14 PM

So,

AA had a hiring event and WO pilots were specifically excluded? I feel like this is a conversation that people had on facebook or something and are assuming everyone knows. Not everyone is on social media. I'd like to know this story beyond simple one liners.

Throwitaway 01-27-2022 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3361150)
So,

AA had a hiring event and WO pilots were specifically excluded? I feel like this is a conversation that people had on facebook or something and are assuming everyone knows. Not everyone is on social media. I'd like to know this story beyond simple one liners.

All the regional pilots were standing in line, waiting to get into AA's Club Meet and Greets. Steve and Doug Butabi ( brothers of course), both worked for AAG WOs. The club's front door bouncer, we'll call him Deebo Isom, was checking everyone's name off of the invite list before they were allowed to enter. When Steve and Doug Butabi were next in line for Club Meet and Greets, Deebo Isom asked if they were brothers and who they worked for? Steve and Doug responded "no...YES, UP TOP! We're WO pilots with AA employee numbers, we heard you desperately need pilots to operate and we'd love to work for AA!" As they high fived each other, thinking that because they worked for a WO, they would be allowed into Club Meet and Greets. Deebo Isom, with his large muscular arms and intimidating corporate casual attire (Collection by Michael Strahan blazer, Van Heusen button up with no tie, total power move), picks up both Butabi brothers as launches them into the street. "You've been retained back to your WO, regional pukes! Go wear your golden handcuffs and wait for your turn to flow!" Deebo Isom exclaims, as he turns around and opens the velvet rope, unleashing the hoards of ULCC and republic/mormon air force pilots into Club Meet and Greets without further delay.

The Butabi brothers felt betrayed. Their whole careers they bought into the idea that they were valued as WO pilots. They were part of the AAG family. AA would welcome the WO pilots with open arms during their desperate time of staffing needs! As they turned around to start their long, cold and dark walk back to the understaffed outstation, Doug said Steve "what is love? Baby don't hurt me no more" while they watched the thousands of outside hires be given seniority numbers at AA, forever restricting the WO pilots from holding widebody captain or high seniority in their career as an AA flow through.

Just then, a couple of really hot chicks rolled up in a Lambo. One had a really wide body. The other, a really goofy hat and horse blanket. They shouted out to Steve and Doug "get in losers, we're going shopping!". Without hesitation, the Butabi brothers jumped aboard with United and Delta, had great careers and watched AA file for bankruptcy, the feuding pilot groups under APA fall into perpetual turmoil and AA/envoy/piedmont/psa corporate structure disintegrate into a pile of rubble more worthless than Expressjet.

The End.


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