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Old 06-30-2022, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ENH017 View Post
1. All the lower day off lines (11-13) are 95% 4 on, with varying amounts of days off but (almost?) never less than 2 between trips. Higher day off trips a mix of 3 and 4 days on. Highest day off lines (17+) are 1 or 2 day on trips. Often they are arranged together, though. 1on + 2on, then 3 off. etc.

Line break down ORD (80 Lines, June 2022):
11 Days off: 10 (12.5%)
12 Days off: 20 (25%)
13 Days off: 12 (15%)
14 Days off: 12 (15%)
15 Days off: 20 (25%)
16 Days off: 1
19 Days off: 2

(I know that doesn't add up to 80, but its close)

2. Approx. DOH of most junior line holder (June 2022):
DFW 175 FO Sep 2021
ORD 175 FO Oct 2021
MIA 175 FO Aug 2021

3. Last few class awards:
6/13/22: 15 DFW, 1 MIA
5/30/22: 21 DFW, 11 MIA
5/16/22: 8 DFW, 21 MIA

Moving bases:
A pilot hired in Feb 2022 was awarded MIA 175 effective Jul 2022. He came out of training in June having originally been awarded ORD 175. Base transfers are done during vacancy bids, which are offered roughly 4 times a year.

4. In December vacation is handed out based on years of service for use the following year. Pilots with less than 1 year seniority receive 1.167 days of vacation per month for amount of months served. Pilots hired on or before the 15th of a month will have that month credited towards vacation accrual.

After 1 year: 1 Week
After 2 years: 2 Weeks
After 7 years: 3 Weeks
After 14 years: 4 Weeks
I have received a CJO today after my AirlineApps, updated yesterday.
I would like to ask you a few questions before I sign and send everything. Your answers would be highly appreciated.
How long is training so Far? I’m rated and current on the E175.
There is any chance to get MIA after training?
How the onboarding process works?
The training is in Dallas which hotel they are providing?
How much you get pay during training and when the payment start? The CJO says I’ll get pay 75 hour during reserve. But nothing else.
How the bonus are paid for people when more than 950 part 121 time.
Thank you in advance
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Old 06-30-2022, 01:51 PM
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Is seniority in class bases on DOB or last 4?
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Old 06-30-2022, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyguy255 View Post
Reserve guys are flying that much?
Is there a wait to upgrade? I have prior time and would be ready to upgrade sooner.

How is seniority determined within a new class? Are most people getting the 175?
The problem with having prior time is the high chance of being forced into the 145 left seat as a junior CA while the fleet dies. But if that's ok, based on the other thread, it sounds like they're fast tracking prior 121.
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Old 06-30-2022, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chihuahua View Post
The problem with having prior time is the high chance of being forced into the 145 left seat as a junior CA while the fleet dies. But if that's ok, based on the other thread, it sounds like they're fast tracking prior 121.
Was offered the job. Not enough time to upgrade yet so I’ll still need some time in the right seat. But I don’t want to leave the 175 where I’m at to fly a 145.

I will if I have to but I’d certainly rather not.

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Old 06-30-2022, 05:03 PM
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Have we mentioned what happens after August 2024? I can’t find a definitive answer
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Old 06-30-2022, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 160to4 View Post
Have we mentioned what happens after August 2024? I can’t find a definitive answer
What specifically do you want to know?
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Old 06-30-2022, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by chihuahua View Post
The problem with having prior time is the high chance of being forced into the 145 left seat as a junior CA while the fleet dies. But if that's ok, based on the other thread, it sounds like they're fast tracking prior 121.
Not sure if that is really the case now. There are no 145 vacancies currently on the bid. Until the bid is run, no way to know if they will create any with backfills. Right now it looks like they won’t. According to the union numbers, if exactly 30 percent of the vacancies are filled from current 145 captains and every single eligible FO upgrades to 175, then there is no need for 145 captains.

If they can get bodies through the door and to stay and able to upgrade, they might keep the 145 around a bit longer.

Just alike a Gallagher show: It’s going to be fun to watch, but very messy and you might end up getting so of it on you.
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Old 06-30-2022, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 160to4 View Post
Is seniority in class bases on DOB or last 4?
DOB, but there have been adjustments to that. It has been cadets first based on their cadet date, then former 121, and I think that was by how much 121 time you had, then everyone else by DOB. But they have been offering everyone 175 DFW or MIA, so other than a few people, plus or minus, really doesn’t matter where you fall. You’re not going to get anything different if your first or last in the class.
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Originally Posted by Bufalo01 View Post
I have received a CJO today after my AirlineApps, updated yesterday.
I would like to ask you a few questions before I sign and send everything. Your answers would be highly appreciated.
How long is training so Far? I’m rated and current on the E175.
There is any chance to get MIA after training?
How the onboarding process works?
The training is in Dallas which hotel they are providing?
How much you get pay during training and when the payment start? The CJO says I’ll get pay 75 hour during reserve. But nothing else.
How the bonus are paid for people when more than 950 part 121 time.
Thank you in advance
All those questions have been answered in last week or so if you read the different threads except the one: EVERY airline you go to, it makes no difference if you’re already typed in something they have. You get what your seniority holds and you go through the same training program. Just makes it easier if you’ve flown it before and your final check ride doesn’t require a 8710 because you’re not adding a type certificate.
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:30 PM
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Would anyone here leave a ULCC for the voy now? I’ve only been at my ULCC for 5 months and was thinking about going back to the regionals for 121 PIC with the hopes of getting on at a legacy. Terrible idea or no?
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