Envoy questions
#21
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 31
1. All the lower day off lines (11-13) are 95% 4 on, with varying amounts of days off but (almost?) never less than 2 between trips. Higher day off trips a mix of 3 and 4 days on. Highest day off lines (17+) are 1 or 2 day on trips. Often they are arranged together, though. 1on + 2on, then 3 off. etc.
Line break down ORD (80 Lines, June 2022):
11 Days off: 10 (12.5%)
12 Days off: 20 (25%)
13 Days off: 12 (15%)
14 Days off: 12 (15%)
15 Days off: 20 (25%)
16 Days off: 1
19 Days off: 2
(I know that doesn't add up to 80, but its close)
2. Approx. DOH of most junior line holder (June 2022):
DFW 175 FO Sep 2021
ORD 175 FO Oct 2021
MIA 175 FO Aug 2021
3. Last few class awards:
6/13/22: 15 DFW, 1 MIA
5/30/22: 21 DFW, 11 MIA
5/16/22: 8 DFW, 21 MIA
Moving bases:
A pilot hired in Feb 2022 was awarded MIA 175 effective Jul 2022. He came out of training in June having originally been awarded ORD 175. Base transfers are done during vacancy bids, which are offered roughly 4 times a year.
4. In December vacation is handed out based on years of service for use the following year. Pilots with less than 1 year seniority receive 1.167 days of vacation per month for amount of months served. Pilots hired on or before the 15th of a month will have that month credited towards vacation accrual.
After 1 year: 1 Week
After 2 years: 2 Weeks
After 7 years: 3 Weeks
After 14 years: 4 Weeks
Line break down ORD (80 Lines, June 2022):
11 Days off: 10 (12.5%)
12 Days off: 20 (25%)
13 Days off: 12 (15%)
14 Days off: 12 (15%)
15 Days off: 20 (25%)
16 Days off: 1
19 Days off: 2
(I know that doesn't add up to 80, but its close)
2. Approx. DOH of most junior line holder (June 2022):
DFW 175 FO Sep 2021
ORD 175 FO Oct 2021
MIA 175 FO Aug 2021
3. Last few class awards:
6/13/22: 15 DFW, 1 MIA
5/30/22: 21 DFW, 11 MIA
5/16/22: 8 DFW, 21 MIA
Moving bases:
A pilot hired in Feb 2022 was awarded MIA 175 effective Jul 2022. He came out of training in June having originally been awarded ORD 175. Base transfers are done during vacancy bids, which are offered roughly 4 times a year.
4. In December vacation is handed out based on years of service for use the following year. Pilots with less than 1 year seniority receive 1.167 days of vacation per month for amount of months served. Pilots hired on or before the 15th of a month will have that month credited towards vacation accrual.
After 1 year: 1 Week
After 2 years: 2 Weeks
After 7 years: 3 Weeks
After 14 years: 4 Weeks
I would like to ask you a few questions before I sign and send everything. Your answers would be highly appreciated.
How long is training so Far? I’m rated and current on the E175.
There is any chance to get MIA after training?
How the onboarding process works?
The training is in Dallas which hotel they are providing?
How much you get pay during training and when the payment start? The CJO says I’ll get pay 75 hour during reserve. But nothing else.
How the bonus are paid for people when more than 950 part 121 time.
Thank you in advance
#23
The problem with having prior time is the high chance of being forced into the 145 left seat as a junior CA while the fleet dies. But if that's ok, based on the other thread, it sounds like they're fast tracking prior 121.
#24
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 58
I will if I have to but I’d certainly rather not.
Last edited by Flyguy255; 06-30-2022 at 02:42 PM.
#27
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
If they can get bodies through the door and to stay and able to upgrade, they might keep the 145 around a bit longer.
Just alike a Gallagher show: It’s going to be fun to watch, but very messy and you might end up getting so of it on you.
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
DOB, but there have been adjustments to that. It has been cadets first based on their cadet date, then former 121, and I think that was by how much 121 time you had, then everyone else by DOB. But they have been offering everyone 175 DFW or MIA, so other than a few people, plus or minus, really doesn’t matter where you fall. You’re not going to get anything different if your first or last in the class.
#29
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
I have received a CJO today after my AirlineApps, updated yesterday.
I would like to ask you a few questions before I sign and send everything. Your answers would be highly appreciated.
How long is training so Far? I’m rated and current on the E175.
There is any chance to get MIA after training?
How the onboarding process works?
The training is in Dallas which hotel they are providing?
How much you get pay during training and when the payment start? The CJO says I’ll get pay 75 hour during reserve. But nothing else.
How the bonus are paid for people when more than 950 part 121 time.
Thank you in advance
I would like to ask you a few questions before I sign and send everything. Your answers would be highly appreciated.
How long is training so Far? I’m rated and current on the E175.
There is any chance to get MIA after training?
How the onboarding process works?
The training is in Dallas which hotel they are providing?
How much you get pay during training and when the payment start? The CJO says I’ll get pay 75 hour during reserve. But nothing else.
How the bonus are paid for people when more than 950 part 121 time.
Thank you in advance
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