BStill

Good advice from another thread:

flykin

What are they looking for in those 5 hours? Sketchy entries? Do they audit every single entry? Some instructor pilots love to log P-51 time, while trying to reach their ATP minimums.

Ravenwing

They spent less than ten minutes looking at my logbooks. The rest of the time was spent in making sure every form in your file is in proper order, taking fingerprints, drug testing, feeding us an early lunch, and a question and answer session. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

Logbook Review is the name for the event that replaces the formal interview for those who received a CJO on the basis of having prior Part 121 time or qualifying Part 135 or military time. They still complete pre-employment checks before you receive an official start date. From what I could tell at Orientation, Envoy is still hiring mostly DECs, a few cadets, and a few people with around 500 hours qualifying Part 121 time.

Puck Hawg

Yeah, the logbook review takes 10-15 mins tops. Rest of the morning is company presentation and going through paperwork followed by drug test and fingerprint. Should be outta there by noon.

I was very impressed with the facility and professionalism.

ClearedILS

Just curious if Envoy is currently hiring FOs and if so what does the timeline look like from Interview to the start of Indoc?

lief101

Obviously the intent is to have the training footprint be as consolidated as possible with no interruptions, but are there any benchmarks where an interruption due to military activation would not require huge strides backwards in the pipeline? Hypothetically speaking, could I complete the first 5 weeks and rolex the sims to the right for the balance of the training without having to repeat the first 5 weeks?

rickair7777

It depends entirely on how long you were gone... a few weeks or even a couple months they'd probably pick up where you left off. At some point they'd start you over from scratch.

I always made a habit (and advised subordinates) to avoid most mil duty during any 121 training event. Frankly, they will not have a lot of sympathy if you get behind for that reason so it's going to be on you to keep up.

pitchattitude

Pretty much, no. If you know you will have military duty that can’t be moved, they will delay you. I believe most places ask if there is any reason why you can’t be in training uninterrupted, or something to that effect.

Yes, law requires employers to accommodate military duty and theoretically they could slide you as delays come up as obviously people do get sick, other things happen. But they prefer not to go in knowing that’s the case.

Try to get ahead a bit on drills. You can always be pro-rated on minimums due to unavailability due to employment as well as get extensions for requirements that can’t be waived. You will have SOME time during training, but I would really consider if you want to spend that playing Army (or whatever) or spend that time with family or studying. After you get on the seniority list and through training you can take some mil leave. Manage your schedule wisely and make things work for you.

If you DID have an interruption that was more than a week before your type ride, they probably wouldn’t make you redo indoc, but very likely start aircraft specific training again. If you complete through all the ground and procedure trainers, the might let you start back at the beginning of sims. Part of the problem is they don’t usually have room to just roll you over. It’s a scheduling issue on their end. Even missing a single training period by either a student or instructor due to illness, mechanical or whatever can really throw a wrench in their schedule. Sometimes it can takes several weeks to get things rescheduled because of that.