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Jvw700 07-09-2014 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1680785)
It was a belated 4th of July party. Held at independence hall. Did you not get the memo and invite. (SACASM)

I didn't get it... I'm not one of the cool kids I guess

Bzzt 07-09-2014 05:30 PM

I don't think there is any news and if we do get news it's not going to be good. Back to you regularly scheduled programming.

JohnGardner 07-09-2014 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 1680639)
All i am going to say is; ALPA believes we should take what the company offers if we want the planes, they would rather represent and keep delta and the majors happy then defend and fund us regionals. Our mec has been strung along by Pedro and the promise that he can get a deal done if we keep low and play nice. Look where that has got us so far. Bill keeps blocking the lec Reps from implementing certain programs and actions believing Pedro's promise. We need to start playing hardball. I believe the company is stalling and stringing us all along. If anyone is hoping for this place to pan out is in denial.

You need a better source. Almost all of the above is incorrect.

Buzzlightyear 07-09-2014 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 1680729)
It is my understanding that Bill believes Pedro when he tells him that he can get a deal done, meanwhile our mec is laying low and playing soft.

I cannot speak for Bill but several people have told me Pedro does not drive deals or has the authority to do so. In fact we have been burned in the past when Pedro said go work something up and then it was flat out shut down by AA.

embraer 07-09-2014 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by JohnGardner (Post 1680829)
You need a better source. Almost all of the above is incorrect.

Thank you, John.

Crawl 07-09-2014 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by JohnGardner (Post 1680829)
You need a better source. Almost all of the above is incorrect.

Which parts?

wiz5422 07-10-2014 01:28 AM


Originally Posted by JohnGardner (Post 1680829)
You need a better source. Almost all of the above is incorrect.

So you are saying that ALPA supports us and is willing to fund our programs even if we wanted to picket?, they didn't come down to Dallas and use scare tactics on you guys? Why hasn't Bill let some of the lec reps implement their job fair and log book programs yet? The talks didn't go good yesterday, and our union is too soft for many reasons.

JohnGardner 07-10-2014 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 1680984)
So you are saying that ALPA supports us and is willing to fund our programs even if we wanted to picket?, they didn't come down to Dallas and use scare tactics on you guys? Why hasn't Bill let some of the lec reps implement their job fair and log book programs yet? The talks didn't go good yesterday, and our union is too soft for many reasons.

Joel, is that you? Yes, I'm saying almost all of that above. You need a better source, you really, really do (yes, that's a play on your lounge avatar).

Jvw700 07-10-2014 03:58 AM

So wiz has all your info come from the captain you're currently flying with? Would explain a lot if true!

wiz5422 07-10-2014 04:27 AM

Not saying my source, but John please tell me how i am wrong!


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