Latest Envoy Blast
09-04-2015, 12:30 PM
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Latest Envoy Blast
American Airlines projects that it will need 300 pilots from Envoy next year. This flow-through, coupled with our recent announcements of additional flying for American that will keep our total fleet count stable for 2016, means that we need to hire 400 pilots between now and the end of 2016.
If you have any friends that are ready to begin their pilot career with Envoy and American Airlines, now is the time. Based on American’s upcoming pilot retirements, we are projecting a high rate of Envoy pilots advancing to American Airlines for years to come. A new hire today is projected to make Captain at Envoy within 2.5 years and is projected to flow through to American within 5.5 years of hire date.
For your friends who have Part 121 experience, we have created a shortened interview process just for candidates with their qualifications. They are eligible for our abbreviated application process that typically takes just 30 minutes to complete, and they will not have to take the simulator or technical.
Next week we will begin hosting a series of open house interview events for pilots around the country. Our first stop will be Chicago (ORD), with sessions scheduled Tuesday, Sept. 8 through Sunday, Sept. 13 from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. each day. The interviews will be held in the Rotunda Room, located inside Security between Terminals G and H.
Why are these new hires important to you?
· Upgrades - These new hires mean Envoy will be able to maintain its fleet plan and upgrade 220 new captains between now and the end of 2016.
· Bonuses - You can earn an extra $1,000 for each successful pilot you refer to Envoy.
Respectfully,
RW
If you have any friends that are ready to begin their pilot career with Envoy and American Airlines, now is the time. Based on American’s upcoming pilot retirements, we are projecting a high rate of Envoy pilots advancing to American Airlines for years to come. A new hire today is projected to make Captain at Envoy within 2.5 years and is projected to flow through to American within 5.5 years of hire date.
For your friends who have Part 121 experience, we have created a shortened interview process just for candidates with their qualifications. They are eligible for our abbreviated application process that typically takes just 30 minutes to complete, and they will not have to take the simulator or technical.
Next week we will begin hosting a series of open house interview events for pilots around the country. Our first stop will be Chicago (ORD), with sessions scheduled Tuesday, Sept. 8 through Sunday, Sept. 13 from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. each day. The interviews will be held in the Rotunda Room, located inside Security between Terminals G and H.
Why are these new hires important to you?
· Upgrades - These new hires mean Envoy will be able to maintain its fleet plan and upgrade 220 new captains between now and the end of 2016.
· Bonuses - You can earn an extra $1,000 for each successful pilot you refer to Envoy.
Respectfully,
RW
09-04-2015, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hijo
American Airlines projects that it will need 300 pilots from Envoy next year. This flow-through, coupled with our recent announcements of additional flying for American that will keep our total fleet count stable for 2016, means that we need to hire 400 pilots between now and the end of 2016.
If you have any friends that are ready to begin their pilot career with Envoy and American Airlines, now is the time. Based on American’s upcoming pilot retirements, we are projecting a high rate of Envoy pilots advancing to American Airlines for years to come. A new hire today is projected to make Captain at Envoy within 2.5 years and is projected to flow through to American within 5.5 years of hire date.
For your friends who have Part 121 experience, we have created a shortened interview process just for candidates with their qualifications. They are eligible for our abbreviated application process that typically takes just 30 minutes to complete, and they will not have to take the simulator or technical.
Next week we will begin hosting a series of open house interview events for pilots around the country. Our first stop will be Chicago (ORD), with sessions scheduled Tuesday, Sept. 8 through Sunday, Sept. 13 from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. each day. The interviews will be held in the Rotunda Room, located inside Security between Terminals G and H.
Why are these new hires important to you?
· Upgrades - These new hires mean Envoy will be able to maintain its fleet plan and upgrade 220 new captains between now and the end of 2016.
· Bonuses - You can earn an extra $1,000 for each successful pilot you refer to Envoy.
Respectfully,
RW
If you have any friends that are ready to begin their pilot career with Envoy and American Airlines, now is the time. Based on American’s upcoming pilot retirements, we are projecting a high rate of Envoy pilots advancing to American Airlines for years to come. A new hire today is projected to make Captain at Envoy within 2.5 years and is projected to flow through to American within 5.5 years of hire date.
For your friends who have Part 121 experience, we have created a shortened interview process just for candidates with their qualifications. They are eligible for our abbreviated application process that typically takes just 30 minutes to complete, and they will not have to take the simulator or technical.
Next week we will begin hosting a series of open house interview events for pilots around the country. Our first stop will be Chicago (ORD), with sessions scheduled Tuesday, Sept. 8 through Sunday, Sept. 13 from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. each day. The interviews will be held in the Rotunda Room, located inside Security between Terminals G and H.
Why are these new hires important to you?
· Upgrades - These new hires mean Envoy will be able to maintain its fleet plan and upgrade 220 new captains between now and the end of 2016.
· Bonuses - You can earn an extra $1,000 for each successful pilot you refer to Envoy.
Respectfully,
RW
Great time to be an Envoy pilot
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09-04-2015, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ar Pilot
220 upgrades by the end of 2016, so in 2017, maybe late 2008 hires will get to upgrade. Only a 9 year upgrade!
Edit: saw cujo touting 2011 hires. I stand corrected, only a 6 year upgrade for the guys hired in 2011.
Edit: saw cujo touting 2011 hires. I stand corrected, only a 6 year upgrade for the guys hired in 2011.
Mind you, 2011 was a huge hiring year which means once it gets to 2011, by the time the last PP pilot upgrades it may be a little longer.
09-04-2015, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hijo
American Airlines projects that it will need 300 pilots from Envoy next year. This flow-through, coupled with our recent announcements of additional flying for American that will keep our total fleet count stable for 2016, means that we need to hire 400 pilots between now and the end of 2016.
If you have any friends that are ready to begin their pilot career with Envoy and American Airlines, now is the time. Based on American’s upcoming pilot retirements, we are projecting a high rate of Envoy pilots advancing to American Airlines for years to come. A new hire today is projected to make Captain at Envoy within 2.5 years and is projected to flow through to American within 5.5 years of hire date.
For your friends who have Part 121 experience, we have created a shortened interview process just for candidates with their qualifications. They are eligible for our abbreviated application process that typically takes just 30 minutes to complete, and they will not have to take the simulator or technical.
Next week we will begin hosting a series of open house interview events for pilots around the country. Our first stop will be Chicago (ORD), with sessions scheduled Tuesday, Sept. 8 through Sunday, Sept. 13 from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. each day. The interviews will be held in the Rotunda Room, located inside Security between Terminals G and H.
Why are these new hires important to you?
· Upgrades - These new hires mean Envoy will be able to maintain its fleet plan and upgrade 220 new captains between now and the end of 2016.
· Bonuses - You can earn an extra $1,000 for each successful pilot you refer to Envoy.
Respectfully,
RW
If you have any friends that are ready to begin their pilot career with Envoy and American Airlines, now is the time. Based on American’s upcoming pilot retirements, we are projecting a high rate of Envoy pilots advancing to American Airlines for years to come. A new hire today is projected to make Captain at Envoy within 2.5 years and is projected to flow through to American within 5.5 years of hire date.
For your friends who have Part 121 experience, we have created a shortened interview process just for candidates with their qualifications. They are eligible for our abbreviated application process that typically takes just 30 minutes to complete, and they will not have to take the simulator or technical.
Next week we will begin hosting a series of open house interview events for pilots around the country. Our first stop will be Chicago (ORD), with sessions scheduled Tuesday, Sept. 8 through Sunday, Sept. 13 from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. each day. The interviews will be held in the Rotunda Room, located inside Security between Terminals G and H.
Why are these new hires important to you?
· Upgrades - These new hires mean Envoy will be able to maintain its fleet plan and upgrade 220 new captains between now and the end of 2016.
· Bonuses - You can earn an extra $1,000 for each successful pilot you refer to Envoy.
Respectfully,
RW
He says Envoy will only need 400 pilots to come to here and that will keep Envoy "stable" at projected fleet count. That means he must assume there will essentially be NO outside attrition. Traditionally even with the flow, almost as many pilots leave Envoy as flow to AA. Realistically then, Envoy will need at least about 700 to be stable or they will have to shrink.
These claims don't match up.
The rest of the blast is all about present Envoy pilots grabbing buckets and carrying managements water to help out. The wildcard will be what AA does beginning next May when deferred furloughs start getting calls to return.
Will AA just blow that off and let them chill while sucking up flows ?
Will AA hire both and run massive classes like the old days which they could have done at any point in the last several years, but have chosen not to even though they have been very short staffed ?
....or is this simply yet another easy claim to make (a murky and unconfirmed by AA "projection") simply to lure more to Envoy ?
I DO notice the promise meter has increased from Wilson, but promises have always been easy to make. The question will be how many suc.......er pilots take this bait, bite down hard and begin taking line ?
Clearly, he is asking for a new contingent of water boys to join the present cadre in grabbing a bucket (or dropping a lure into the water) as it will provide plenty of more junior flotsam with which to keep your heads above water should the good ship Envoy begin to sink.
Should be a fun cruise to watch.
Ahoy mates !
09-04-2015, 02:09 PM
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From Jetnett..
As Envoy prepares to welcome 40 new Embraer 175 (E175) aircraft to our fleet, we’re looking for the best-trained professionals available to provide safe, reliable and courteous service to American’s customers. Earn an extra $1,000 for referring pilots to Envoy, where they’ll have an unmatched opportunity to flow-through to American and continue their aviation career. The process is simple: 1) fill out an online form for a qualified applicant who has not already begun the recruitment process; and 2) if that pilot gets hired, passes training and stays with the company six months, you get paid. American and US Airways employees are also encouraged to refer pilots to any of AAG’s wholly owned regional carriers and earn a bonus. Refer a pilot today!
As Envoy prepares to welcome 40 new Embraer 175 (E175) aircraft to our fleet, we’re looking for the best-trained professionals available to provide safe, reliable and courteous service to American’s customers. Earn an extra $1,000 for referring pilots to Envoy, where they’ll have an unmatched opportunity to flow-through to American and continue their aviation career. The process is simple: 1) fill out an online form for a qualified applicant who has not already begun the recruitment process; and 2) if that pilot gets hired, passes training and stays with the company six months, you get paid. American and US Airways employees are also encouraged to refer pilots to any of AAG’s wholly owned regional carriers and earn a bonus. Refer a pilot today!
09-04-2015, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
300 flows to AA next year plus X number this year equals at least 350 Envoy pilots to AA by end of 2016 which is conservative. OK, lets think about this claim..........
He says Envoy will only need 400 pilots to come to here and that will keep Envoy "stable" at projected fleet count. That means he must assume there will essentially be NO outside attrition. Traditionally even with the flow, almost as many pilots leave Envoy as flow to AA.
He says Envoy will only need 400 pilots to come to here and that will keep Envoy "stable" at projected fleet count. That means he must assume there will essentially be NO outside attrition. Traditionally even with the flow, almost as many pilots leave Envoy as flow to AA.
The thing is, right now, every regional's fleet numbers are based on staffing. Every regional has pilots leaving for Legacy and LCC airlines. A new hire could go to RAH, Mesa, SkyWest, or Compass and the only chance for movement is senior pilots leaving for Major/LCC jobs or they could go to envoy who has pilots leaving for Major/LCC jobs in addition to 350 pilots leaving next year. Seems like a whole lot better chance of movement at envoy to me. And that is in addition to the opportunity to flow to AA. Why would a pilot go to, say Compass where the only chance for movement is normal hiring attrition, when they could go to an airline that has normal hiring and flow?
09-04-2015, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FlameNSky
All of which means movement and progress to a new hire. Why are you carrying Management's water for them?
The thing is, right now, every regional's fleet numbers are based on staffing. Every regional has pilots leaving for Legacy and LCC airlines. A new hire could go to RAH, Mesa, SkyWest, or Compass and the only chance for movement is senior pilots leaving for Major/LCC jobs or they could go to envoy who has pilots leaving for Major/LCC jobs in addition to 350 pilots leaving next year. Seems like a whole lot better chance of movement at envoy to me. And that is in addition to the opportunity to flow to AA. Why would a pilot go to, say Compass where the only chance for movement is normal hiring attrition, when they could go to an airline that has normal hiring and flow?
The thing is, right now, every regional's fleet numbers are based on staffing. Every regional has pilots leaving for Legacy and LCC airlines. A new hire could go to RAH, Mesa, SkyWest, or Compass and the only chance for movement is senior pilots leaving for Major/LCC jobs or they could go to envoy who has pilots leaving for Major/LCC jobs in addition to 350 pilots leaving next year. Seems like a whole lot better chance of movement at envoy to me. And that is in addition to the opportunity to flow to AA. Why would a pilot go to, say Compass where the only chance for movement is normal hiring attrition, when they could go to an airline that has normal hiring and flow?
Don't argue with the guy that knows what's going to happen, because we are wrong and he's right.
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