AA Blacklist if leaving before flow
04-25-2023, 07:12 AM
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AA Blacklist if leaving before flow
Word on the street is if you leave Envoy before the flow (5-6 years or whatever it was), AA blacklists you from interviewing for 5 years. Can anybody verify that?
Also if that's the case, any WO folks have any suggestions to go around the flow to AA? 5 years is an awful long time to miss out on a good amount of hiring/seniority. Ain't nobody got time fuh dat.
Thanks.
Also if that's the case, any WO folks have any suggestions to go around the flow to AA? 5 years is an awful long time to miss out on a good amount of hiring/seniority. Ain't nobody got time fuh dat.
Thanks.
04-25-2023, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by abnperry
Word on the street is if you leave Envoy before the flow (5-6 years or whatever it was), AA blacklists you from interviewing for 5 years. Can anybody verify that?
Also if that's the case, any WO folks have any suggestions to go around the flow to AA? 5 years is an awful long time to miss out on a good amount of hiring/seniority. Ain't nobody got time fuh dat.
Thanks.
Also if that's the case, any WO folks have any suggestions to go around the flow to AA? 5 years is an awful long time to miss out on a good amount of hiring/seniority. Ain't nobody got time fuh dat.
Thanks.
04-25-2023, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by abnperry
Word on the street is if you leave Envoy before the flow (5-6 years or whatever it was), AA blacklists you from interviewing for 5 years. Can anybody verify that?
Also if that's the case, any WO folks have any suggestions to go around the flow to AA? 5 years is an awful long time to miss out on a good amount of hiring/seniority. Ain't nobody got time fuh dat.
Thanks.
Also if that's the case, any WO folks have any suggestions to go around the flow to AA? 5 years is an awful long time to miss out on a good amount of hiring/seniority. Ain't nobody got time fuh dat.
Thanks.
04-25-2023, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Thatsapproved
buddy left for a carrier then when tried to get on with AA he was given a 5 month penalty.
Can you elaborate a bit? Like, they said "try again in 5 months"? Did he end up getting in?
04-25-2023, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by abnperry
Word on the street is if you leave Envoy before the flow (5-6 years or whatever it was), AA blacklists you from interviewing for 5 years. Can anybody verify that?
Also if that's the case, any WO folks have any suggestions to go around the flow to AA? 5 years is an awful long time to miss out on a good amount of hiring/seniority. Ain't nobody got time fuh dat.
Thanks.
Also if that's the case, any WO folks have any suggestions to go around the flow to AA? 5 years is an awful long time to miss out on a good amount of hiring/seniority. Ain't nobody got time fuh dat.
Thanks.
04-25-2023, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Thatsapproved
buddy left for a carrier then when tried to get on with AA he was given a 5 month penalty.
04-26-2023, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by abnperry
Can you elaborate a bit? Like, they said "try again in 5 months"? Did he end up getting in?
04-26-2023, 07:12 AM
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Possible Myth (my sample size is only one person though)
Friend was sent home from Envoy to sit during covid. Ended up flying for a 135 and upgraded to CA. Envoy started calling back but he was already part 135 CA in a nice bizjet. Got hired by a different major and just got a CJO and class date from AA.
He was thinking he was likely blacklisted as well, but being hired by a competing major likely made the difference.
He beat the flow by at least two years, but that wasn't his plan, it was just how things worked out.
Friend was sent home from Envoy to sit during covid. Ended up flying for a 135 and upgraded to CA. Envoy started calling back but he was already part 135 CA in a nice bizjet. Got hired by a different major and just got a CJO and class date from AA.
He was thinking he was likely blacklisted as well, but being hired by a competing major likely made the difference.
He beat the flow by at least two years, but that wasn't his plan, it was just how things worked out.
04-26-2023, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by abnperry
Seem pretty confident about that. Not trying to start drama but would love to hear how you're so certain
AA desperately needs mainline pilots but needs WO pilots more. They’ll lie to you to keep you at the WO but once you’re gone to a competitor (which is the key part… going to someone they compete with makes it worth their while to steal you) they’ll bring you back to mainline, even when you leave as an WO FO and go to a place like Frontier, JetBlue, Southwest, Spirit etc. Just keep updating your app once you leave.
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