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Internetpilot84 06-06-2022 04:30 PM

I have an Interview coming up.
 
Hello all,

I have an interview coming up. Just had a few questions as I also have an Interview with Kalitta. Weighing my options.

Is the Pilot group happy?

What are some good/bad things about Envoy?

Do most people bank on the flow to American?

Thank you for your time!

pitchattitude 06-06-2022 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Internetpilot84 (Post 3435795)
Hello all,

I have an interview coming up. Just had a few questions as I also have an Interview with Kalitta. Weighing my options.

Is the Pilot group happy?

What are some good/bad things about Envoy?

Do most people bank on the flow to American?

Thank you for your time!

What is your background? WHICH Kalitta?

Pilot group is mostly unhappy with management.

If you are a new hire now, flow shouldn’t even be part of the equation. You will likely never see it. Too many stars would have to align and that is an eternity away for someone just now interviewing at Envoy.

Internetpilot84 06-06-2022 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3435829)
What is your background? WHICH Kalitta?

Pilot group is mostly unhappy with management.

If you are a new hire now, flow shouldn’t even be part of the equation. You will likely never see it. Too many stars would have to align and that is an eternity away for someone just now interviewing at Envoy.

Thanks for the honest opinion. K4 Kalitta.

pitchattitude 06-06-2022 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by Internetpilot84 (Post 3435852)
Thanks for the honest opinion. K4 Kalitta.

If you can get an interview with Kalitta you shouldn’t even be considering Envoy. You would be taking a step backward.
Definitely other places you should be applying to.

Internetpilot84 06-07-2022 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3435917)
If you can get an interview with Kalitta you shouldn’t even be considering Envoy. You would be taking a step backward.
Definitely other places you should be applying to.

Yeah very true, but I have no 121 PIC. Thanks Pitchattitude!

highfarfast 06-07-2022 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Internetpilot84 (Post 3436267)
Yeah very true, but I have no 121 PIC. Thanks Pitchattitude!

And neither do a lot of Delta new hires.

No 121 PIC isn't the roadblock it used to be.

pitchattitude 06-07-2022 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by Internetpilot84 (Post 3436267)
Yeah very true, but I have no 121 PIC. Thanks Pitchattitude!

Atlas, Frontier, Spirit, as well as your preferred major.

You didn’t say what your background was, but if Kalitta will call you I would imagine at least the first three would as well.

BlackOcelot 06-09-2022 09:48 AM

Would it be a bad move to apply/interview/start training/actually fly with Envoy as a stepping stone to get a quick flow to American? I have five internal recs with AA, am military, and have way over the minimums for AA. They just haven't called and I'm less than two months away from my availability date.

I already have a CJO from Omni and have a few other interviews scheduled. I'm looking to live around DFW either way.

Money is really not a factor at the moment, but is Envoy paying military guys the captain pay as FO?

Chato 06-09-2022 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by BlackOcelot (Post 3437285)
Money is really not a factor at the moment, but is Envoy paying military guys the captain pay as FO?

Yes PIC CA’s are now making FO pay.. all how u look at it.

BigZ 06-09-2022 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by BlackOcelot (Post 3437309)
Is the flow based on seniority?
I would think it would be a bad choice to sit at Envoy for four years waiting to go to AA when they would call me sooner if I worked somewhere else.

Go somewhere else


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