phalanxo

Let me elaborate. What I meant was that you are unlikely to have much time off at any of these flight schools, in order to really be take advantage of the travel benefits. Many of them are 5 on 2 off or 6 on 1 off. Maybe a few aren't and you could get more use out of them, but even if it's a 5 on 2 off schedule, that doesn't really give you any time to go anywhere and be able to make it back in time if your commute doesn't work out (especially with no jumpseat available).
Also, when I previously looked into this, enrolling in pipeline meant you didn't get the 15k signing bonus. If that hasn't changed... well, $15,000 buys a lot of confirmed seats domestically. It looks like now under a very specific set of circumstances they offer a 10k "scholarship" but again there's a $5000 delta there which would buy a lot of confirmed airline tickets (and you can go elsewhere without putting all your eggs in one basket...)
Food for thought.

inky13

Nope. Check your facts before you spew. Better yet, call the recruitment department and ask questions.

Pipeline Instructors, once they start as a First Officer, will receive whatever the current signing bonus is at that time. Currently, that is $15,000.

As far as the travel privileges while being an instructor--I agree with you in that some outfits have you workings 6 days a week. Even with 2 days off, it may be tough non-revving somewhere. The privileges that your spouse (or RC) and family/friends get out of it is good though. There are many cases where the instructor's family used the travel privileges more than the instructor.

Aside from the travel privileges, however, are all the other benefits. Not many outfits provide their instructors with full health benefits, 401k and vacation/sick time accrual. Being a PI also starts the company seniority (NOT pilot seniority) once hired, which determines the amount of vacation/sick time accrual and 401k company contribution amounts.

To be a PI, Envoy requests a 2-year commitment. That can run concurrently with the 2-year commitment for the signing bonus.

Cadet Instructors commit for 1 year.

inky13

In addition to JCPearce8's gouge, you can find more at all the interview gouge websites like willflyforfood.com and aviationinterviews.com.

When you do look on those websites, keep in mind the simulator evaluation is currently not being done.

You'll know the same day as your interview if you are given the "pre-offer" of employment. The pre-offer allows recruitment to conduct the background check. Once done, you'll be given the actual "conditional" offer of employment and, if you're already teaching at one of the partner schools, be onboarded into Envoy's system to become an Envoy employee. Total time for that process is usually a few weeks.

If you're not at a partner school, Envoy can help facilitate an interview with a school once accepted into the Pipeline/Cadet Program.

yeahbutstill

Does anyone know who to contact at Envoy? The guy that handles that at my flight school never gets back to you, it is really annoying. I also emailed some recuriter captain David Streit but never heard back either

inky13

972-374-5607 will get you to the office, then can be directed from there.

Or just PM me.

Dorn

In addition to the travel benefits, you also begin your company seniority ( NOT PILOT SENIORITY). Meaning as an instructor you begin to accumulate your vacation and sick bank just as any FO would. So for the average instructor requiring ~ 12-15 months of flight instructing would essentially show up as a new hire like everyone else on day one but would have potentially 2 weeks of vacation already accrued as well as sick time. For you guys not yet in the industry the airlines generally dont issue an allotment of vacation/sick but it is accrued at X amount of hours a month.
It's not the end all be all, and I wouldn't come here just for that, but it is a nice perk especially for year one.
You also get the exact same health benefits we do as well as 401k with company match. All this stuff is pretty cool in that when I was an instructor I had none of this stuff as many of us did. I wouldn't base my only decision to come here just on these but I'll admit it is nice to have.

moon

You are correct. Registered companions get unlimited D2s and the same 6 D1 allotments as well.

toolowterrain

Whattttt. And here I am at AWAC, flying exclusively as American Eagle and Im a D6 as a commuter.

Otherwise you have to pay to be an AAC priority code. Unlike the US Airways days, the American culture seems to be very hostile to the non-wholly owned's.

PilotJ3

Because Non-WO are contractors. Sorry if is that way, but I don't understand why people feel entitled to better flight benefits when they are not part of the company. Also this is USAirways management, you have to understand why the AA culture is that way. All of this was imposed by the merger, it is what it is.

The PI are signing a 2yr contract to fly for ENY/PSA/PDT, that's part of the package.

iFlyRC

We are ****ed off because we had priority with Airways! We lost priority because the AA pilots and FA's wanted to protect their retiree's benefits. What ever, tired of playing this sick little game, AA was going out of business for a reason.