highflyer1980

Before I begin, let me first disclose that Skyvector (also CR700) are the head recruiting company men on this forum. Well before other screen name, Dacuj, who got banned for threatening termination because people where speaking too truthful about the working conditions. This guy was on the Spirit thread telling Spirit guys to abandon their current jobs to come to Envoy. But I digress.
My point is Skyvector is another one, just not as crazy I guess.

The schedules here are horrible. This company ,after bankruptcy mind you, closed two bases and caused major disruption in pilots personal lives. All because we turned down the offer for concessions. The corporate leader who presented this deal threatened the union saying, "If you don't take this deal, we will close the doors and liquidate the assets", in other words they will can the whole company if we say no deal. Pilots, FAs, everyone. Now, they have seen the error in their ways and have opened one of the two bases, but still it's like they are always five steps behind things. BTW, still no apologies from leadership for the COMAIR II bit. I find that disturbing.

Anyways, schedules keep getting worse. Always 4 on 2 off, reserve sucks, at least for the mid to lower half on the reserve list. I've gotten numerous derogatory missed assignment codes in the last year than my whole 10 years tenure. All of them from adhering to our union contract. The corporate culture is toxic. The safety culture is a joke. They teach you safety first and you find out later it's on time performance first. The other labor groups try their hardest to blame you for delays when they know it isn't your fault. They are super paranoid about sick time use. I've had multiple sick occurrences, all with docs notes, and they are still hounding me about them. The company is never in your corner for doing what is right, what is safe. I actually removed myself from duty for not being fit. Their response? Missed assignment.

Yeah the flow is good, but.... I don't know what it's like at your current regional. I know I'll get some groans for saying it but Envoy is turning into Mesa with flow.


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DollaBillz

Some of the captains I fly with have this opinion as well, but none of the guys looking to come to envoy are basing their decision on "management closed bases screwing some people over a few years ago." That's in the past. It's the airline business, you're going to get screwed over eventually. The CRj schedules may be like that, but my 175 line for next month is 13 days off with all 4 day on, 3 day off. I was on reserve for one month. I live at base, fly the 175, I get paid just as much as guys at the other regionals, and my career is pretty much set. By the way, I got hired last spring before the higher bonuses were rolled out. I signed a contract for a $5k bonus. They basically ripped it up, gave me the $15k bonus, and I get the quarterly retention bonus as well. I'm happier than a pig in sh*t at envoy. Sure you have historical grievances and I understand, I would too if I were in your position. But historical grievances have nothing to do with new hires right now. For a new hire, envoy is pretty much the best place to be.

ORDriver

I agree the schedules are horrible and the hope of them getting any better diminish each month. My line this month at least was 4 on 3 off. However, 3 of the 4 sequences started prior to 7am and all 4 sequences end at 845pm or later.

TheWeatherman

Really? Higher pay? Flow? Don't have to bunk with a roomate who snores during training?

Zidac

Some places still don't offer single occupancy during training?

highfarfast

That would be a deal breaker for me if I was looking for an airline.

Zidac

Same for me.

ORDinary

Maybe reread his post, much of it refers to present day problems.

TheWeatherman

Skywest of all places.

Zidac

Excellent. That's almost as tacky as Delta not providing lodging during training.