Envoy
#4561
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,729
So should we just ignore the warning shot the company tossed at us in the HI6s? P4P's points are all valid. Maybe the union and the company are working on something, but until that announced, folks should prepare accordingly that the vacancies will be assigned per the contract.
#4562
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,530
First the only basis of information I have is the company hi6 saying to update your displacement bids per 15 G 4. The consensus in this thread is company will force FOs to CA. The ONLY way they can fill the unawarded vacancy is to make FOs to CAs.
Second, I think there was some talk about a program similar to the LTFO but via a LOA. I'm sure they have talked about other options I have no clue about.
Finally, this won't even come close to touching senior FOs. Unless the company goes WAY outside the contract. Per my current understanding of how this should play out.
Again, I have guessed and wondered too much about this. I'm gonna go get a beer and wait for the union to put out something about this.
Second, I think there was some talk about a program similar to the LTFO but via a LOA. I'm sure they have talked about other options I have no clue about.
Finally, this won't even come close to touching senior FOs. Unless the company goes WAY outside the contract. Per my current understanding of how this should play out.
Again, I have guessed and wondered too much about this. I'm gonna go get a beer and wait for the union to put out something about this.
#4564
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,523
I'm being told ALPA will be sending out a comm soon addressing this fiasco.
#4565
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 221
The company can't just move 175 pilots to ORD. They would first have to take CRJ/145 guys junior to the 175 guys first. This would only affect guys in training right now. Not line pilots. Line pilots will TDY to ORD to fill the void. So essentially all the pilots hired in September and maybe a few in August will get reassigned to 175 ORD. If there were 160pilots I'd guess 100 lines give or take 10.
#4567
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
I don't know. If they decide to force pilots into a vacancy per 15 G 4, then that is what I interprete 15 G 4. However, like I said before I am waiting to hear the company and union interpretation of this. I don't see them needing to do this for FOs.
#4568
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
This isn't something that's far out in left field. The company specifically said to get your displacement bids in pe 15 G 4.
#4569
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
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#4570
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 388
Contractually they can force the upgrade. The company told us to plan on this happening via an HI6 message TWO days ago. I think it is highly probable and problematic if they do this.
This isn't something that's far out in left field. The company specifically said to get your displacement bids in pe 15 G 4.
This isn't something that's far out in left field. The company specifically said to get your displacement bids in pe 15 G 4.
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