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10-14-2017, 07:16 AM
#5151
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Posts: 63
Originally Posted by Purpleanga
It's funny how you guys actually take him seriously. You guys do realize that he's not who he says he is right? He gets you every single time too lol
Preach!
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10-14-2017, 08:32 AM
#5153
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 674
Originally Posted by Pstats
How long will these nearly instant upgrades be possible for new hires? I know that’s not easy to predict but I know nothing about your fleet plans or why this sort of thing is happening but perhaps someone could fill me in.
Four more 175s this year, but outside that, it hasn't really been announced how many 145s we will have at the end of next year, how many 140s are coming out of the desert, if the CRJs are hanging around, or what.
Probably because AAG doesn't even know. They seem to plan three months at a time, for the wholly owned carriers anyway.
10-14-2017, 08:38 AM
#5154
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
Originally Posted by Pstats
How long will these nearly instant upgrades be possible for new hires? I know that’s not easy to predict but I know nothing about your fleet plans or why this sort of thing is happening but perhaps someone could fill me in.
It's going to happen until CA pay is raised or reserve gets better.
10-14-2017, 11:23 AM
#5155
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 366
Originally Posted by Jersdawg
We know nothing about our fleet plan, either 😎
Four more 175s this year, but outside that, it hasn't really been announced how many 145s we will have at the end of next year, how many 140s are coming out of the desert, if the CRJs are hanging around, or what.
Probably because AAG doesn't even know. They seem to plan three months at a time, for the wholly owned carriers anyway.
Four more 175s this year, but outside that, it hasn't really been announced how many 145s we will have at the end of next year, how many 140s are coming out of the desert, if the CRJs are hanging around, or what.
Probably because AAG doesn't even know. They seem to plan three months at a time, for the wholly owned carriers anyway.
10-14-2017, 11:49 AM
#5156
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 15
Originally Posted by Pedro4President
There are about 250 FOs that have not upgraded but could upgrade. They have bypassed upgrading for QOL, pay, flowing and other reasons. Senior FO compared to junior CA is about 1200 dollars different when comparing CA base pay with FO crediting about 100 hrs.
It's going to happen until CA pay is raised or reserve gets better.
It's going to happen until CA pay is raised or reserve gets better.
I understand there are really quick upgrades right now. With the 250 FOs that could upgrade and the massive class sizes that have been going through the last few months, do you see upgrades slowing down quite a bit for those not hired in the next few months?
The other aspect to this is wouldn’t one of the new hires being forced to a captain spot or any quick upgrade run the risk of getting stuck on reserve for a very long time if they increase pay for Captains and the senior FO’s start upgrading?
10-14-2017, 12:19 PM
#5157
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 394
Originally Posted by wwood
Just curious on the hiring environment for the next year or so.
I understand there are really quick upgrades right now. With the 250 FOs that could upgrade and the massive class sizes that have been going through the last few months, do you see upgrades slowing down quite a bit for those not hired in the next few months?
The other aspect to this is wouldn’t one of the new hires being forced to a captain spot or any quick upgrade run the risk of getting stuck on reserve for a very long time if they increase pay for Captains and the senior FO’s start upgrading?
I understand there are really quick upgrades right now. With the 250 FOs that could upgrade and the massive class sizes that have been going through the last few months, do you see upgrades slowing down quite a bit for those not hired in the next few months?
The other aspect to this is wouldn’t one of the new hires being forced to a captain spot or any quick upgrade run the risk of getting stuck on reserve for a very long time if they increase pay for Captains and the senior FO’s start upgrading?
Anyone that comes here with 1,000 hours of 121 time will be forced to upgrade for the foreseeable future. You'll be sent to LGA and be on the bottom of the reserve list for a very long time. Might as well head to Endeavor and enjoy the better pay rate if you're going to be forced to go to LGA and sit on the bottom.
10-14-2017, 01:05 PM
#5158
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Posts: 376
Originally Posted by Shiner
Most senior FO's are getting closer to the flow. If you upgrade, you risk getting yourself seat locked and not able to flow right away. I think a lot of the FO's that have bypassed are planning on staying FO's until they flow.
Anyone that comes here with 1,000 hours of 121 time will be forced to upgrade for the foreseeable future. You'll be sent to LGA and be on the bottom of the reserve list for a very long time. Might as well head to Endeavor and enjoy the better pay rate if you're going to be forced to go to LGA and sit on the bottom.
Anyone that comes here with 1,000 hours of 121 time will be forced to upgrade for the foreseeable future. You'll be sent to LGA and be on the bottom of the reserve list for a very long time. Might as well head to Endeavor and enjoy the better pay rate if you're going to be forced to go to LGA and sit on the bottom.
I mean you would slowly advance out of LGA as a junior captain, but what would it look like?
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