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Old 10-16-2017, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude View Post
Maybe I shouldn't give away my strategy, but I guess I will just be bidding reserve from now on. Better to be on reserve in DFW and not fly than to get too much time and be forced before my peers to upgrade and sent to the other side of the country.

I know they say don't come to a regional for the base, but I thought once I got to DFW I would be relatively safe.

Obviously not.

I guess we'll have to use the quote again...

"The world has changed!"
Lol. Good plan until the union gets with the company and passes the LTFO and the union forces you to fly trips to build 1000 hrs and kick you up to LGA.
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Old 10-16-2017, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
I hope they do. Taking a hike is the only way the company MIGHT realize the error of their ways (but I have doubts they would).
Although true I don't think it's fair to ask people to fall on a sword that you wouldn't do yourself. Why don't you quit in protest?
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Old 10-16-2017, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by havick206 View Post
Some nov 2016 hires were displaced to DFW ca, so you you might get DFW back sooner than you think.
Using 15G4 to fill backfills is a gross violation of the contract and the union is allowing it to happen.
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Old 10-16-2017, 05:09 PM
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Using 15G4 to fill backfills is a gross violation of the contract and the union is allowing it to happen.
Agree, I'm a senior FO and prof to displace to DCE but didn't get it. Was told no prof to dis on backfills...
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Old 10-16-2017, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sheg0theD View Post
Very very tempted to be honest. If I was going to be forced in New York, I would have chosen elsewhere.


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Not only are they forced to NY. They are forced to be forever ultra junior in the worst possible commuting to reserve situation imaginable. Since they are so junior with the company everyone will keep upgrading or being force upgraded above them so they will basically never move up to any schedules they want or ever get anything they bid for. They will be airport standby every day with one day off a week (after commuting) for a LONG time. Not sure they even realize the crapfest they are in for.. (Lived that life for years here). Would never go through that again and I at least had people junior to me coming in regularly, which a new hire CA won't. It will be the opposite, people will keep trickling in above them making their bidding seniority never improve.
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Old 10-16-2017, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Regionalsuck View Post
Not only are they forced to NY. They are forced to be forever ultra junior in the worst possible commuting to reserve situation imaginable. Since they are so junior with the company everyone will keep upgrading or being force upgraded above them so they will basically never move up to any schedules they want or ever get anything they bid for. They will be airport standby every day with one day off a week (after commuting) for a LONG time. Not sure they even realize the crapfest they are in for.. (Lived that life for years). Would never go through that again and I at least had people junior to me coming in regularly, which a new hire CA won't. It will be the opposite, people will keep trickling in above them making their bidding seniority never improve.
Y'all use airport reserve a lot?? Is it seniority based versus short call?
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Old 10-16-2017, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President View Post
Base?
Dfw guys don't get the travel day. So if you are a dfw guy then look for a 4/2 and have the last day of a trip on day one and the first day on the next trip on the last day of training.
I have training coming and asked two different captains today about this question. Both said to try to get a trip that covers all of your training days.
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Old 10-16-2017, 06:06 PM
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Y'all use airport reserve a lot?? Is it seniority based versus short call?
Yes and it is terrible. They are abusive to the reserves with standby, using a revolving door of standby pilots daily. There is standby lines not many people bid, which you can't be forced into, but if you don't bid it they just call people in to do it every day anyway for 8 hour shifts. As soon as they burn that person, they call the next on the list and so on all day long.
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Old 10-16-2017, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Regionalsuck View Post
Not only are they forced to NY. They are forced to be forever ultra junior in the worst possible commuting to reserve situation imaginable. Since they are so junior with the company everyone will keep upgrading or being force upgraded above them so they will basically never move up to any schedules they want or ever get anything they bid for. They will be airport standby every day with one day off a week (after commuting) for a LONG time. Not sure they even realize the crapfest they are in for.. (Lived that life for years here). Would never go through that again and I at least had people junior to me coming in regularly, which a new hire CA won't. It will be the opposite, people will keep trickling in above them making their bidding seniority never improve.


I’m aware man, I am one of the new guys affected. I am trying to be optimistic, but it’s hard to...

The only saving grace we may have is all the XJEt guys coming over, but that’s assuming they come to ENY over E9... once word gets out they are going to be in LGA either way, why wouldn’t they go to E9?


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Old 10-16-2017, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast View Post
I have training coming and asked two different captains today about this question. Both said to try to get a trip that covers all of your training days.
That creates no 7 day conflicts. The way I describe has two 7 day conflicts and extra pay for training on days off. Also, you don't lose any days off because the two you did will be replaced by 7 day conflicts.

To me this seems like the most money scenario. I admit I don't have too much experience in this area, but it seems solid to me.

Am I missing something?

Also every one might have a different end game in mind.
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