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Old 09-23-2017, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Thyagosc View Post
Does anyone know how likely new hires can get MIA base? And how do we get it...do we bid for a base when we get hired? Or airplane?

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You bid for base and equipment. For example, maybe they will have ORD 175 and LGA 145 available, and you bid one of those. Bid any base with the 145 that is offered if you want MIA - Im not sure if Miami will be offered in new hire classes or not, but, you will probably be able to transfer pretty quickly once another vacancy bid is posted. The 145 is the only equipment in the Miami base.
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Old 09-23-2017, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg View Post
You bid for base and equipment. For example, maybe they will have ORD 175 and LGA 145 available, and you bid one of those. Miami is likely, but if it is not available in your class, you will probably be able to transfer pretty quickly once another vacancy bid is posted. The 145 is the only equipment in the Miami base.
Gotcha! That is good news then! I am from Florida and would love to be able to have MIA as a base..that is IF they hire me lol..I tried 1 year ago and they didn't hire me...offered me a job letter but after background they cancelled on me..I had 3 failures in the past..it might be that who knows.. I will try again next year...

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Old 09-23-2017, 02:41 AM
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Gotcha! That is good news then! I am from Florida and would love to be able to have MIA as a base..that is IF they hire me lol..I tried 1 year ago and they didn't hire me...offered me a job letter but after background they cancelled on me..I had 3 failures in the past..it might be that who knows.. I will try again next year...

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Did you disclose all 3 failures in your application or did they find out about them after/during your interview?
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Old 09-23-2017, 03:52 AM
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Did you disclose all 3 failures in your application or did they find out about them after/during your interview?
I am pretty sure I did. At least 2 of them I know for a fact I did. I am not sure about the first failure I had...but, I am pretty sure I did..and they still called me to interview so that is what I don't understand..but hey everything happens for a reason..I am still well employed up to this day so...maybe my airline career wasn't supposed to happen before I don't know..I just have the desire to go to the airlines and Envoy seems like an awesome company to work for..

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Old 09-23-2017, 06:26 AM
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I can't remember a bid where that line wasn't in there. It's just standard language but there will most likely be back fills.
Thanks for the info. Most people I've talked to have said getting to DFW shouldn't be too hard, but I haven't seen it listed in a vacancy since I started at Envoy. Hoping it all works out and I get backfilled.
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Old 09-23-2017, 06:40 AM
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The garbage contract reads "If there are insufficient bidders for a vacancy, pilots may be assigned to such vacancy in reverse order of seniority among those pilots who meet the minimum qualifications to enter training for said position."

This is opening a can of worms, I bet people within a year of flow will proffer to displace. Then the waterfall of displacements starts. It's not like the training center is already over saturated or anything.
Maybe I've had one too many mimosas. But if you proffer to displace aren't you seat locked for 2 years if it's a new type??
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Old 09-23-2017, 06:55 AM
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I believe the best thing to do is don't bid anything. That way, you'll be displaced and not have a seat lock if flowing in a year or less. If you don't fall in that window then proffer for upgrade.

The only benefit I can think of if you straight up proffer to go to capt is you'll go into training ahead of the displacements. No moving expense, but you do get move days if it's into a different base.


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Old 09-23-2017, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by HardLemonade View Post
Maybe I've had one too many mimosas. But if you proffer to displace aren't you seat locked for 2 years if it's a new type??
Does it count as a new type though? The LGA 145 guys had a grievance some years back over not being able to bid the CRJ and lost since it wasn't a new type for the company since it had been in ORD for many years. Where are you seeing that, I can't find what you're referring to in the contract.
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Old 09-23-2017, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by highflyer1980 View Post
I believe the best thing to do is don't bid anything. That way, you'll be displaced and not have a seat lock if flowing in a year or less. If you don't fall in that window then proffer to displace. That way if you decide to move, then company will pay moving expenses up to $3000.


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Displacement proffers aren't entitled to moving expenses, para15.L.6
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Displacement proffers aren't entitled to moving expenses, para15.L.6


Damn... okay, I'll rephrase that.


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