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Old 01-08-2017, 11:56 AM
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Just curious If the company is going to continue issuing step 1 letters after 4 occurences now that the scope of sick leave use has been broadened under 099-0841? What is our local ALPA lec doing to combat and curb this aggressive and potentially illegal behavior by envoy? Anyone on here aware of any outside legal assets that can be brought to bear upon the company, as I believe our local ALPA LEC/MEC will probably be lame duck about the issue.

January 7, 2017

Fellow Pilots,

We wanted to make you aware of a new Illinois law that took effect on January 1, 2017. This law is called the Illinois Employee Sick Leave Act and it allows employees based in IL to use personal sick leave benefits provided by the employer for absences due to an illness, injury, or medical appointment of the employee’s child, spouse, sibling, parent, mother and father in-law, grandchild, grand parent, or stepparent.

Section 15 of the law specifies that the rights and remedies specified are “in addition” to any other rights or remedies afforded by contract.

We expect that this legislation will provide valuable benefits to our Chicago-based pilots beyond those provided by Section 9 of our contract. California has had a similar “kin care” law for many years while Texas does not have a similar law.

The full text of the Illinois Employee Sick Leave Act, Public Act 099-0841, can be found here.

We are working with the Company to determine how to seamlessly integrate this new law into the policies and procedures. We will transmit details of this integration as they become known.

FAQs
Q: How is this different than FMLA?
A: The new Illinois law is similar to FMLA in some respects. However, this law allows for ORD based pilots to get paid from accrued sick leave for qualifying absences resulting from family medical obligations. The Act does not allow for additional leave beyond what FMLA already offers.

Q: If I’m Chicago based, but live in a different state, does this law apply to me?
A: Yes.

Q: If I’m DFW or LGA based, but live in Chicago, does this law apply to me?
A: No.

Q: Is paid time off, as afforded by the Illinois Act, subject to the Envoy’s Attendance Control Policy?
A: Yes, but we expect that the Company’s metrics for Attendance Control would still apply.

Fraternally,

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If the company chooses not to comply with the law, then I would imagine that either the Illinois department of labor (or its equivalent) could be notifed that the company is violating the law in order to start an investigation, or a group of pilots based in Chicago that feel they have been harmed could file a lawsuit. I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV, but I would imagine this would have traction in court.

The ball is really in the company's court for them to decide if they want a lawsuit on their hands.
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If the company chooses not to comply with the law, then I would imagine that either the Illinois department of labor (or its equivalent) could be notifed that the company is violating the law in order to start an investigation, or a group of pilots based in Chicago that feel they have been harmed could file a lawsuit. I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV, but I would imagine this would have traction in court.

The ball is really in the company's court for them to decide if they want a lawsuit on their hands.
Crazy to think we could actually use our own sick time! Probably the first good thing passed in Springfield in a long long time.
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Originally Posted by SpreadEagle View Post
Just curious If the company is going to continue issuing step 1 letters after 4 occurences now that the scope of sick leave use has been broadened under 099-0841? What is our local ALPA lec doing to combat and curb this aggressive and potentially illegal behavior by envoy? Anyone on here aware of any outside legal assets that can be brought to bear upon the company, as I believe our local ALPA LEC/MEC will probably be lame duck about the issue.

January 7, 2017

Fellow Pilots,

We wanted to make you aware of a new Illinois law that took effect on January 1, 2017. This law is called the Illinois Employee Sick Leave Act and it allows employees based in IL to use personal sick leave benefits provided by the employer for absences due to an illness, injury, or medical appointment of the employee’s child, spouse, sibling, parent, mother and father in-law, grandchild, grand parent, or stepparent.

Section 15 of the law specifies that the rights and remedies specified are “in addition” to any other rights or remedies afforded by contract.

We expect that this legislation will provide valuable benefits to our Chicago-based pilots beyond those provided by Section 9 of our contract. California has had a similar “kin care” law for many years while Texas does not have a similar law.

The full text of the Illinois Employee Sick Leave Act, Public Act 099-0841, can be found here.

We are working with the Company to determine how to seamlessly integrate this new law into the policies and procedures. We will transmit details of this integration as they become known.

FAQs
Q: How is this different than FMLA?
A: The new Illinois law is similar to FMLA in some respects. However, this law allows for ORD based pilots to get paid from accrued sick leave for qualifying absences resulting from family medical obligations. The Act does not allow for additional leave beyond what FMLA already offers.

Q: If I’m Chicago based, but live in a different state, does this law apply to me?
A: Yes.

Q: If I’m DFW or LGA based, but live in Chicago, does this law apply to me?
A: No.

Q: Is paid time off, as afforded by the Illinois Act, subject to the Envoy’s Attendance Control Policy?
A: Yes, but we expect that the Company’s metrics for Attendance Control would still apply.

Fraternally,

Chairman
MEC Communications Chairman
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This should be interesting.
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Originally Posted by LongTimeListenr View Post
So you ask APC? Why not ask your rep...who actually has a legitimate answer to your question.
/Once again I can always look to my fellow airline bros/hoes for legitimate helpful peer support. No wonder I hate everyone here after 13 years of employment...

Maybe because I haven't had a legitimate reply to my legitimate email. Or they legitimately haven't responded to my legitimate voicemail and legitimately called me back. Is that legitimate enough for you? Or are you to legit to quit?
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So you ask APC? Why not ask your rep...who actually has a legitimate answer to your question.
Have you talked to our reps. The new hires here have a stronger back bone, and more knowledge then our reps.
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Originally Posted by Smutter View Post
Have you talked to our reps. The new hires here have a stronger back bone, and more knowledge then our reps.
Agreed. Remember, those reps don't want to rock the boat due to the possibility of getting fired and missing the flow. But then again, you have reps abusing the system.
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What, wrongful termination at envoy, say it ain't so.
Unfortunately it is so.
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