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Old 07-31-2007, 08:43 AM
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The city is centered around the Schloss Platz with the main street, Koning Strasse, running through the downtown. The Koning Str has the Haupt Banhhof on one end and a great Irish bar called Biddy Earlys just off to the right on the other end.

The Museum across the Schloss Platz from the Neau Schloss (4 or 5 story glass structure) is a great spot for a rainy and cold day.

Good restaurants around the schloss platz are Ochs and Wilis (Steaks and German Food) and the Grand Cafe de Plaine.

The U Bahn will get you around just about everywhere and is very easy to use.

The old standyby is always the Dubliner Irish Pub in the SI Millenium Hotel is always a great bet. If you get a chance to check out a musical there I highly recommend it.
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The city is centered around the Schloss Platz with the main street, Koning Strasse, running through the downtown. The Koning Str has the Haupt Banhhof on one end and a great Irish bar called Biddy Earlys just off to the right on the other end.

The Museum across the Schloss Platz from the Neau Schloss (4 or 5 story glass structure) is a great spot for a rainy and cold day.

Good restaurants around the schloss platz are Ochs and Wilis (Steaks and German Food) and the Grand Cafe de Plaine.

The U Bahn will get you around just about everywhere and is very easy to use.

The old standyby is always the Dubliner Irish Pub in the SI Millenium Hotel is always a great bet. If you get a chance to check out a musical there I highly recommend it.
I haven't seen that Call Sign in a while! I was Clue 21 while I was there (98-01)

I agree, Stuttgart is a great town. Don't forget to mention the Mercedes Museum. Even if one is not a gear head, it can still be enjoyed. I always thought it was really neat when they fired up that original Daimler 1887 model by the front door and watching that huge piston shoot oil out.

Do Herman, Chicken Man, and Tommy still work there at SAAF?
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That fearsom threesome was still there when I left in SEP 06. I loved working with those guys and in three years flying there I didn't find a better group in any baseops. I'm back overseas in Weisbaden but haven't done a training flight down south yet to check back in.

The CLUE call sign died in early 06. Took a while after the C-21's went to Ramstein but the Army aircraft switched to their parent units DUKE call sign... I'm still faithful to my first PC callsign though.
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I haven't seen that Call Sign in a while! I was Clue 21 while I was there (98-01)


Do Herman, Chicken Man, and Tommy still work there at SAAF?
Another former Clue here, Clue 39. C-12, C-21, UH-1 from 94-97. Hands down the SAAF crew is the best in the business. I saw Herman, Chicken Man and Tommy when I was back in Germany on my last tour, 00-03 in Heildelberg/Wiesbaden. Sadly, one of the Base ops guys is gone, Joseph passed away in 01.
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Another former Clue here, Clue 39. C-12, C-21, UH-1 from 94-97. Hands down the SAAF crew is the best in the business. I saw Herman, Chicken Man and Tommy when I was back in Germany on my last tour, 00-03 in Heildelberg/Wiesbaden. Sadly, one of the Base ops guys is gone, Joseph passed away in 01.
Joseph died in his home alone. Back in 98, he had a heart attack in the bathroom in the squadron.

Hands down, the best flying job I could ever hope to have. Weekend trainers with me, the other pilot, and our wives in the back of the learjet spending the weekend in Limerick, Ireland or Rota, Spain. It was a 3 year honeymoon. I would go back there in a heartbeat.
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If you happen to be there for just a quick stop, there is a pretty decent Chinese place in the Real-Markt on the south side of the runway. They are upstairs and their windows overlook the arriving/departing traffic if you like that sort of thing. I recommend the bao-bao :P
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I just left ETAR and we were regulars at the SAAF baseops. I remember one time we had 5 C21s there because of two ongoing missions, two broke jets, and one functional carrying mx.

I was HOOK66. I never knew the CLUE CS was used back in the day. As you are aware, it is obsolete now.

Those last 3.5 years in Ramstein were probably the best flying I have ever experienced.

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The C-21's left within four months of me getting stationed there in 2003. It was the last bit of the old EUCOM Flight Det to get hacked up besides the CLUE call sign. Later, in '05, I became the battalion flight ops officer for the unit that took over the Stuttgart company and in the spring or summer at the direction of our Battalion Commander we dropped CLUE and GRIT (old SETAF Flight Det Call Sign) and we all went to DUKE.

As I later learned, after a british newspaper published a story on the CIA stealing our JGO47 callsign to fly across Austria, the CLUE and GRIT call signs should have been dropped in 2001 or 2002 when the EUCOM and SETAF flight dets closed; the Call Signs were registered with ICAO for the specific use of those organizations. The new battalion had it's own ICAO approved Call Sign in DUKE that should have been used by all aircraft regardless of where they flew out of. DUKE32 was available so I became that; after all, I controlled the call sign roster.

For those of you flying in and out of Germany for the next 11 months, I'm now ARGUS32 incase you hear it on the radio. Very happy to have kept the 32 for my whole career.
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Didn't Porsche re open their new museum as well?
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Clue32,

could you please contact me at [email protected]? I have some questiosn for you.

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