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Macchi30 05-22-2017 09:43 AM

Pathways to UA degree requirement?
 
So I'm a bit confused. On ExpressJet's website it continuously says "if the candidate meets eligibility, they will be on a direct path to transition to UA". But the specific eligibility requirements are not listed.. but here is what has me confused, on UA's website, it does not show a college Degree as a Requirement. But when I was looking at the Pathway program with CommutAir, it said to transition over to the United team, you must have a degree before being given an offer letter.

I'm just wondering if that was just for CommutAir pilots, or if it's a general thing for United Airlines. Even though on United's actual website, a degree is not listed as a requirement..

Cylinderpop 05-22-2017 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Macchi30 (Post 2367448)
So I'm a bit confused. On ExpressJet's website it continuously says "if the candidate meets eligibility, they will be on a direct path to transition to UA". But the specific eligibility requirements are not listed.. but here is what has me confused, on UA's website, it does not show a college Degree as a Requirement. But when I was looking at the Pathway program with CommutAir, it said to transition over to the United team, you must have a degree before being given an offer letter.

I'm just wondering if that was just for CommutAir pilots, or if it's a general thing for United Airlines. Even though on United's actual website, a degree is not listed as a requirement..

Short answer is you need a 4 year degree. I don't know where you looked but United will only take guys without a 4 year degree if you have a resume that gets you qualified for NASA. Lots of guys stick doing the grind to get that degree and get over that last hurdle

PILOTO74 05-22-2017 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Macchi30 (Post 2367448)
So I'm a bit confused. On ExpressJet's website it continuously says "if the candidate meets eligibility, they will be on a direct path to transition to UA". But the specific eligibility requirements are not listed.. but here is what has me confused, on UA's website, it does not show a college Degree as a Requirement. But when I was looking at the Pathway program with CommutAir, it said to transition over to the United team, you must have a degree before being given an offer letter.

I'm just wondering if that was just for CommutAir pilots, or if it's a general thing for United Airlines. Even though on United's actual website, a degree is not listed as a requirement..

Close friend OO captain 10K plus hours , got picked up by united 4 months ago, no degree. (He was halfway with one of those funny "art majors" that you go to LA one weekend a month) withdraw already and save the money . At the end of the day is up to the company to decide, keep your APP up to day.

John Carr 05-22-2017 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Cylinderpop (Post 2367495)
Short answer is you need a 4 year degree. I don't know where you looked but United will only take guys without a 4 year degree if you have a resume that gets you qualified for NASA. Lots of guys stick doing the grind to get that degree and get over that last hurdle

Well, mostly correct, like 99%.

IIRC, Commutair's CPP requires a degree, XJT's does not.

Some of the CPP's to go over didn't have one, and some have been "accepted" waiting on their number and "final review" before going over don't have one either. So precedent has been set. But of course, UAL can do what they want when they want in regards to the CPP.

With that being said, anyone hired at XJT now has a slim (more like NONE) chance of getting to UAL via the CPP. In fact, many pilots already on property don't either.

Barring the alleged "big annoucment" coming for them.....

IDIOTPILOT 05-22-2017 02:32 PM

Can be whatever they consider equivalent experience for a degree. They've been far more lenient about it than I thought they'd be. More than a few have gone over with no degree.

Macchi30 05-22-2017 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by IDIOTPILOT (Post 2367664)
Can be whatever they consider equivalent experience for a degree. They've been far more lenient about it than I thought they'd be. More than a few have gone over with no degree.

Does military experience help with this? I was in for 5 years, although it wasn't aviation related.

IDIOTPILOT 05-22-2017 07:26 PM

I honestly couldn't tell you. Since the first ones going have been at ExpressJet around 20 years, many are check airman and instructors. You can still interview and they tell you if you have the relevant experience or not. I would say it depends on what schools and positions you held in the military.

Macchi30 05-22-2017 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by IDIOTPILOT (Post 2367846)
I honestly couldn't tell you. Since the first ones going have been at ExpressJet around 20 years, many are check airman and instructors. You can still interview and they tell you if you have the relevant experience or not. I would say it depends on what schools and positions you held in the military.

The whole education requirement is something I've always been confused with. Because they say "any degree" counts. So someone could get a art major and be qualified. What's the reasoning for that? Showing responsibility? Because I feel like 5 years in the military would show that, and also be an excuse on why I wasn't in college from 18-22 years old.

John Carr 05-22-2017 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by IDIOTPILOT (Post 2367846)
You can still interview and they tell you if you have the relevant experience or not. I would say it depends on what schools and positions you held in the military.

Has that changed that they ACTUALLY tell the candidate that?

The ones I knew interviewing last summer never got a clear answer when they asked.


Originally Posted by Macchi30 (Post 2367860)
The whole education requirement is something I've always been confused with. Because they say "any degree" counts. So someone could get a art major and be qualified. What's the reasoning for that? Showing responsibility? Because I feel like 5 years in the military would show that, and also be an excuse on why I wasn't in college from 18-22 years old.

Right. But there's NO REASON to be confused. It gets asked ad nauseum. Sorry, GET A DEGREE.

If it's between a person as outlined above and one that did 5 years in the military, THEN went to college, which should they pick in a highly competitive environment?

There's isn't a shortage of the latter.

Macchi30 05-23-2017 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2367884)
Has that changed that they ACTUALLY tell the candidate that?

The ones I knew interviewing last summer never got a clear answer when they asked.



Right. But there's NO REASON to be confused. It gets asked ad nauseum. Sorry, GET A DEGREE.

If it's between a person as outlined above and one that did 5 years in the military, THEN went to college, which should they pick in a highly competitive environment?

There's isn't a shortage of the latter.

That sucks. Well, maybe I could get hired by one of the AA owned regionals and flow through.


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