Originally Posted by HB Pilot

While it shouldn't be a blanket statement, there is evidence on why you'll hear that from hiring departments. I left for a major at the end of last year and in both my class and the class ahead of me, the two that struggled with training the most were the two most senior pilots in each class with one of them not completing training. Again - certainly doesn't apply to everyone but training centers have seen trends with RJ pilots who have been in the same seat of the same airplane flying to the same airports under the same ops specs for a couple of decades and know those pilots can be a bit behind the learning curve when it comes to a totally different airplane and company. It just is what it is for some people in that situation that when you've done the same thing for so long, change doesn't come as easy. I think if you know you're not that person who will struggle though, you just have to embrace the stereotype in the interview and be up front that while you've done the same thing from the same seat for a long time, you're completely confident you're ready for change and will breeze through training because it's what you want to do right now more than any point in your career.

Originally Posted by Blackhawk

I have to get to the interview first. I’m hoping another type will do that. Also trying to knock out the rest of my ratings such as gyrocopter and SES.

Also, if you look at any demographic you can find issues such as millennials who seem to be unable to put down their cell phones during IOE.

Originally Posted by jcountry

Heard about that.....

Dumbest way to get fired. Ever

Originally Posted by FICON633

Don't write off the cargo haulers just yet. I left the ERJ side after 19 years to a purple carrier, and I'm loving it! For the first time in years, I actually enjoy going to work again. Night Hub turns do hurt. But it is short term. There is flying for everyone, Day, Night, International, Round the world, etc.

As for training, yes, not only do you have to learn a new way of doing things, but you also have to forget the XJT way! That was a little tough, but CAN be done.

Good Luck getting out.

Originally Posted by Blackhawk

I actually had a young FO pull out his cell phone during cruise during a line check. ****ed me off as it put me in the position of being a jerk- what would happen to me if I permitted that in front of a check airman? The LCA wanted to discuss some other issues with the FO after my debrief in private so I don’t know if that came up. I think the FO moved on to the land of double breasted jackets. ��

Originally Posted by HB Pilot

While it shouldn't be a blanket statement, there is evidence on why you'll hear that from hiring departments. I left for a major at the end of last year and in both my class and the class ahead of me, the two that struggled with training the most were the two most senior pilots in each class with one of them not completing training. Again - certainly doesn't apply to everyone but training centers have seen trends with RJ pilots who have been in the same seat of the same airplane flying to the same airports under the same ops specs for a couple of decades and know those pilots can be a bit behind the learning curve when it comes to a totally different airplane and company. It just is what it is for some people in that situation that when you've done the same thing for so long, change doesn't come as easy. I think if you know you're not that person who will struggle though, you just have to embrace the stereotype in the interview and be up front that while you've done the same thing from the same seat for a long time, you're completely confident you're ready for change and will breeze through training because it's what you want to do right now more than any point in your career.

Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator

I don’t quite buy that. It’s not the age or the hours, it’s the character and caliber of pilot that matters. Swa, ups and fedex hire many high time (read, older) pilots and have great success.

In real estate and other sectors it’s called disparate discrimination. IOW, per HUD regulations, landlords can no longer do a credit check or criminal background check because there is a social and racial disparity between those that do and don’t qualify; So it’s considered disparate discrimination. Leaving out applicants with over 8000 hours is just a disparate means of ruling out older applicants.

There are plenty of pilots at the big three that had disciplinary problems, even being fired, or struggled through training only to continue to struggle at their new job.

There’s a difference between hiring excellent pilots that have the personality that fits the company culture, and hiring someone based on a personality profile that happens to have a pilot certificate also... and age has nothing to do with it.

Originally Posted by Jefferson

Fiddina get interesting....

Originally Posted by Blackhawk

I actually saw this at a hiring fair. I’m in good shape, height weight proportional, look pretty good in a dark suit if I don’t say so myself. But I’m obviously not in my 30’s.
I was able to narrow down who I would see to about 3 based upon the flow and the numbers. The one who saw me was spending 5-10 minutes with people. As soon as she saw me it was obvious she wanted to move on. She barely looked at my resume after noting my hours (over 10,000). I got maybe 2 minutes out of her. I shouldn’t have been surprised but I was.