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Old 12-10-2018 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Then, why is United retiring every CRJ700 (except SkyWest’s Aspen 700’s) by the end of 2020 in lieu of the E175SC? Why have the Ejet at all?
Maybe it’s more efficient over their average flight lengths? Maybe high mx costs? Push towards a common fleet type or dispatch relatability? Embraer gave them a better deal? Maybe a bombardier CEO stole Scott Kirby’s girlfriend in middle school? Maybe they think that it will improve customer satisfaction even though all the data shows otherwise? Who knows, I just highly doubt it’s because of the .01% of the population that find underslung engines arousing.
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Old 12-10-2018 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Well, the AirTran pilots and FA’s were merged into Southwest’s seniority list and many are flying 737’s. The gates in Atlanta and AirTran routes were retained by Southwest.

You make a lot of excuses for an airplane and a type rating that won’t be of value in the next few years anywhere other than Delta. If you are at Delta, you will simply move on to a better aircraft at some point.

AirTran isn’t like an airline just folded up like Great Lakes. All the flight crews landed on their feet. It is like when USAirways and American merged. Did USAirways go away?


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Old 12-10-2018 | 03:43 PM
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From a MX standpoint the E175 is a longer lasting aircraft. The 700’s are having bulkhead problems. Extensive repairs, downtime ect...
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Old 12-10-2018 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
Maybe it’s more efficient over their average flight lengths? Maybe high mx costs? Push towards a common fleet type or dispatch relatability? Embraer gave them a better deal? Maybe a bombardier CEO stole Scott Kirby’s girlfriend in middle school? Maybe they think that it will improve customer satisfaction even though all the data shows otherwise? Who knows, I just highly doubt it’s because of the .01% of the population that find underslung engines arousing.
Since Mesa and GoJet own the CRJ700’s, United won’t care as much about maintenance unless it affects ontime performance, cancellations, etc. And, United doesn’t care if the engines are under wing or centerline thrust.

The 175 is the highest rated aircraft from passenger comfort of all rj’s and many mainline aircraft. There is something about stowing the bags in the overhead bins instead of being stuck underneath and it is a 90 seat aircraft configured to 70 or 76 seats - so plenty of leg room. No middle seats. Two bathrooms. But, I guess United doesn’t care about what the passenger thinks.
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Old 12-10-2018 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Since Mesa and GoJet own the CRJ700’s, United won’t care as much about maintenance unless it affects ontime performance, cancellations, etc. And, United doesn’t care if the engines are under wing or centerline thrust.

The 175 is the highest rated aircraft from passenger comfort of all rj’s and many mainline aircraft. There is something about stowing the bags in the overhead bins instead of being stuck underneath and it is a 90 seat aircraft configured to 70 or 76 seats - so plenty of leg room. No middle seats. Two bathrooms. But, I guess United doesn’t care about what the passenger thinks.
United cares about what passengers think, and 99% of passengers think that it’s nice to get where they’re going at a convenient time, on time, and for an appropriate amount of money. If pax opinions of an airframe were so important they wouldn’t be adding 50 seat flying and 737’s. They wouldn’t be sticking a -200 on 2+ hour routes or hub to hub.

Again, based on all the passenger satisfaction data I can find the type of airframe doesn’t really play into an airline’s satisfaction rating, since delta’s fleet is ancient and Alaska’s incredibly uncomfortable and they have the two highest scores.
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Old 12-10-2018 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Since Mesa and GoJet own the CRJ700’s, United won’t care as much about maintenance unless it affects ontime performance, cancellations, etc. And, United doesn’t care if the engines are under wing or centerline thrust.

The 175 is the highest rated aircraft from passenger comfort of all rj’s and many mainline aircraft. There is something about stowing the bags in the overhead bins instead of being stuck underneath and it is a 90 seat aircraft configured to 70 or 76 seats - so plenty of leg room. No middle seats. Two bathrooms. But, I guess United doesn’t care about what the passenger thinks.
Delta's pax highest rated narrow-body is the ERJ-175. Only the Bombardier 220 will be better. Especially compared to the ****ty 737, of which AA has the ****iest seating configuration, and the half-sized bathrooms...
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Old 12-10-2018 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CanWeGetTheLeft
Best response ever for Calmwinds!!!
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Old 12-10-2018 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
United cares about what passengers think, and 99% of passengers think that it’s nice to get where they’re going at a convenient time, on time, and for an appropriate amount of money. If pax opinions of an airframe were so important they wouldn’t be adding 50 seat flying and 737’s. They wouldn’t be sticking a -200 on 2+ hour routes or hub to hub.

Again, based on all the passenger satisfaction data I can find the type of airframe doesn’t really play into an airline’s satisfaction rating, since delta’s fleet is ancient and Alaska’s incredibly uncomfortable and they have the two highest scores.
United only adds 200’s (and 145’s) because they are scoped out. Delta is as well. Only American and Alaska are adding 175’s without retiring other 70 and 76 seat capacity.

Why does Xjet even give a **** about having 175’s added to the certificate and in STL sharing a FSI facility with Mesa, Envoy and Republic?
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Old 12-11-2018 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
All I know is the first 12 instructors are currently in training in STL. Let the charade continue....
That doesn't matter if you can't attract NH...
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Old 12-11-2018 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Melit
That doesn't matter if you can't attract NH...
Eventually, if the 175 comes and SkyWest is no longer the owner and they implement the CPP like CommutAir, new hires will come. It may take a few years to be sorted out.

United still shows 25 CRJ700’s disappearing in 2019. Do you know when GoJet’s CPA is up for renewal?
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