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da42pilot 03-04-2019 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by popcopy (Post 2774462)
The Aviation College Grad is a special demographic in the pilot pool and the reason they choose a certain regional isn't because that regional has the best contract/training footprint/domiciles.

These graduates of Aviation Degree Schools are the kind of pilots who have LEGACY Airlines in their mind. Not the dopey regionals. They are the pilots who, when choosing a regional, will sacrifice QOL, Money, Schedules, Domiciles, etc to get to their quals up to get hired at their Airline of Choice As Soon As Possible.

They are the ones who have the most potential in their career trajectories should they reach their Legacy Airline of Choice.

And they are also the pilots with the MOST TO LOSE if they capitulate to short term happiness and comfort of being a big fish in a small pond when picking a regional. They know those who do that often find themselves 10-15 years later at the same regional in their mid thirties, making 80-100k a year when if they had stayed hungry and focused on their career path and not their regional job they could have been at a Legacy in their late 20s and pulling in 200-250k a year now.

It's no secret that a degree from a University with a respected Aviation Program is a +1 on the legacy applications. They don't pay 200k for their degree to then get comfortable at ExpressJet. They'll tactically apply to the regional airlines that will shotgun them through the regional job and to their legacy career with the best efficiency.

If these guys add Expressjet to their resumes, they’ll have a +2 not a +1. I had military guys in my class who came to Expressjet for that very reason. One got picked up by delta less than a month after training.

Great training counts for more in this industry than a lot of people think.

amcnd 03-04-2019 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by da42pilot (Post 2774564)
If these guys add Expressjet to their resumes, they’ll have a +2 not a +1. I had military guys in my class who came to Expressjet for that very reason. One got picked up by delta less than a month after training.

Great training counts for more in this industry than a lot of people think.

This is the thing that they won’t expect. It’s ramped right now. Under 1 year FO’s leaving for ULCC and fractionals, and Military guys leaving for Majors... I predict they struggle to get a net Positive pilot group.. atleast through summer into fall..

DarkSideMoon 03-04-2019 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by da42pilot (Post 2774564)
If these guys add Expressjet to their resumes, they’ll have a +2 not a +1. I had military guys in my class who came to Expressjet for that very reason. One got picked up by delta less than a month after training.

Great training counts for more in this industry than a lot of people think.

Every airline thinks their training department is better than the rest. For what it’s worth, my college friends that have ended up at the majors are PSA, Endeavor, and Mesa alums....

popcopy 03-04-2019 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by da42pilot (Post 2774564)
If these guys add Expressjet to their resumes, they’ll have a +2 not a +1. I had military guys in my class who came to Expressjet for that very reason. One got picked up by delta less than a month after training.

Great training counts for more in this industry than a lot of people think.

Please, the military guys who get beamed up to the Legacies, it's not because they finally added the coveted ExpressJet name to their CV. :rolleyes:

SpringLanding 03-04-2019 02:58 PM

I've asked around a bit and am pretty sure major airlines don't give a squirt what regional you flew for.

If "went through Expressjet training" is something you thinks stands out on a resume, I think you're wrong.

Nothing wrong with Expressjet, but I'm pretty sure we're not impressing anyone.

Blackhawk 03-04-2019 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by SpringLanding (Post 2774777)
I've asked around a bit and am pretty sure major airlines don't give a squirt what regional you flew for.

If "went through Expressjet training" is something you thinks stands out on a resume, I think you're wrong.

Nothing wrong with Expressjet, but I'm pretty sure we're not impressing anyone.

Meh.
1. You don’t find new hires or FSI teaching at XJT. I know of one guy who became an instructor at PSA after one year, no prior 121 or Jet time. He was good, but not that good. Something about “the blind leading the blind”.
2. You see XJT FOs getting hired at majors, LCCs and ULCCs on a regular basis. No statistics, but it seems to happen more than other regionals.

PhantomHawk 03-04-2019 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by SpringLanding (Post 2774777)
I've asked around a bit and am pretty sure major airlines don't give a squirt what regional you flew for.

This appears to be VERY true. It’s what you did when you were there....not where you did it. The guy who upgraded in 18 months and became an LCA the following year has a HUGE advantage over the guy who can’t upgrade after 6 years......despite working for a “better regional”.

FollowMe 03-05-2019 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2774788)
2. You see XJT FOs getting hired at majors, LCCs and ULCCs on a regular basis. No statistics, but it seems to happen more than other regionals.

The fact that at any other regional those XJT FOs would have been CAs kinda skews the numbers.

da42pilot 03-05-2019 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by popcopy (Post 2774775)
Please, the military guys who get beamed up to the Legacies, it's not because they finally added the coveted ExpressJet name to their CV. :rolleyes:

I didn’t say it’s becaise of. But it is another plus.

da42pilot 03-05-2019 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by SpringLanding (Post 2774777)
I've asked around a bit and am pretty sure major airlines don't give a squirt what regional you flew for

That is simply not true. They even care if you trained under 141 versus 61.


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