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Training footprint
Can anyone provide any insight as to what the training footprint is like at XJT? Typically from day one of indoc to the end of ground school? How long is that? Thank you.
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Originally Posted by SpaceManX
(Post 2773353)
Can anyone provide any insight as to what the training footprint is like at XJT? Typically from day one of indoc to the end of ground school? How long is that? Thank you.
Week1: day 1 corporate orientation day 2-5 basic indoc Week2: day 1 written test day 2 CRM day 3 PTG (preparation for IPT1) Week3: day 1-5 systems Week4: day 1 IPT1(procedure trainer) day 2-5 systems Week5: day 1 IPT2 day 3 systems day 4 IPT3 day 5 systems Week6: day 1 written test (systems) day 2-3 gen ops day 5 IPT4 Week7: day 1 IPT5 day 2 KV (knowledge validation) day 3 PV (procedure validation) Week8: day 1-5 IMT (maneuvers SIM) day 6 MV (maneuvers validation) Week9: day 1-3 ILOT (line training SIM) day 4 LOE (checkride) Some times you will have 2 or 3 days off in between it depends on you personal schedule |
Originally Posted by SpaceManX
(Post 2773353)
Can anyone provide any insight as to what the training footprint is like at XJT? Typically from day one of indoc to the end of ground school? How long is that? Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Melit
(Post 2773808)
Dude it’s Manair a lot better options for you
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
(Post 2773874)
Dude, get a life. It’s getting to where no one takes anything you write seriously.
It is awful the way some take glee in every kick to the jimmy at XJT. |
Originally Posted by Flogger
(Post 2773895)
One only need a pulse to know XJT is not a good place to put one's eggs right now. Nobody gets a gold star for pointing this out.
It is awful the way some take glee in every kick to the jimmy at XJT. |
Originally Posted by Blackhawk
(Post 2774080)
Meh. Not the first choice but no longer a horrible choice. The GoJet move by UAL, however, does demonstrate that UAL only kind of likes XJT. Frankly, I dont get the actions of UAL over the past several months. But UAL has always treated their regionals like crap.
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Originally Posted by da42pilot
(Post 2774099)
IMO the GoJet thing is an experiment. If it pans out, good for them, but I sure as heck would not make a lateral move to a bottom of the barrel operation over an experiment.
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These kinds of a posts are extremely disrespectful to all us new hires. The Thread name is "Training footprint"!!!!
We chose this company for reasons that are important to every single one of us individually. |
Originally Posted by ChilledPilot
(Post 2775972)
These kinds of a posts are extremely disrespectful to all us new hires. The Thread name is "Training footprint"!!!!
We chose this company for reasons that are important to every single one of us individually. Really? Really? How about "informative"? Sure, we all make decisions for very important reasons, but please have the wisdom to constantly access those decisions as you go. To take insult at someone speculating about the future of your choice is just a bit snowflaky. That is, unless I just plain missed your sarcasm. In which case, That is funny as sheeeeet!!! |
Training location
Originally Posted by lalique78
(Post 2773405)
Week1:
day 1 corporate orientation day 2-5 basic indoc Week2: day 1 written test day 2 CRM day 3 PTG (preparation for IPT1) Week3: day 1-5 systems Week4: day 1 IPT1(procedure trainer) day 2-5 systems Week5: day 1 IPT2 day 3 systems day 4 IPT3 day 5 systems Week6: day 1 written test (systems) day 2-3 gen ops day 5 IPT4 Week7: day 1 IPT5 day 2 KV (knowledge validation) day 3 PV (procedure validation) Week8: day 1-5 IMT (maneuvers SIM) day 6 MV (maneuvers validation) Week9: day 1-3 ILOT (line training SIM) day 4 LOE (checkride) Some times you will have 2 or 3 days off in between it depends on you personal schedule |
Originally Posted by DreFlyer
(Post 2776085)
Does it all take place in Houston? In-house or outsourced?
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Originally Posted by ChilledPilot
(Post 2775972)
These kinds of a posts are extremely disrespectful to all us new hires. The Thread name is "Training footprint"!!!!
We chose this company for reasons that are important to every single one of us individually. Attachment 4264 Oh boy.. |
Originally Posted by da42pilot
(Post 2776100)
100% in-house and all in Houston.
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Originally Posted by Flogger
(Post 2776020)
"Disrespectful"?
Really? Really? How about "informative"? Sure, we all make decisions for very important reasons, but please have the wisdom to constantly access those decisions as you go. To take insult at someone speculating about the future of your choice is just a bit snowflaky. That is, unless I just plain missed your sarcasm. In which case, That is funny as sheeeeet!!! |
Originally Posted by ChilledPilot
(Post 2777886)
Please enlighten me with info on What is the best choice for the first regional job? EWR/PHL base. P.S. Found nothing informative in your post, expect your personal opinion.
It is unreasonable to expect everyone to be thrilled with your career choices. Just as you are entitled to that choice based on your criteria, everyone else is entitled to their opinion. As messy and childish as this board is, I am sure the information posted here has prevented new hires from making some bad decisions. My advice to any new-hire is to go to a regional which has a direct flow. The only real flow out there is the American brands. That being said, you have to be able to suck up all the other pitfalls that come with that: where are the bases? How long is upgrade? What's the pay? Quality of life and many other factors may be much better at another regional, but if your goal is to fly for the majors as soon as possible, you should go for a flow. The Delta DGI and the United CPP are not flows. Not even close. |
Originally Posted by Flogger
(Post 2773895)
One only need a pulse to know XJT is not a good place to put one's eggs right now. Nobody gets a gold star for pointing this out.
It is awful the way some take glee in every kick to the jimmy at XJT. I do appreciate opinions as they helped me to decide on regional in a first place. RJT-1y class date wait, 7m training PSA-1-2y rsv with barely any flying time (all DH + base not guaranteed) 10y flow to AA, 4m training delay PDT- Worst regional in the area. Unorganized, poor quality of life, 7-9y flow as of now and spiraling down, 3-6m training delay+6-8m training time (brother CA there) XJT-Great training for first jet type (no delay), experienced CAs, downtown hotels, great benefits, looooong upgrade (family member senior FO) P.S. Interviewed with all 4 with offers. |
Xjet is a quality place with a solid contract and pay, good benefits, decent flexibility, and the upgrade time appears to be rapidly dropping. Last award went to an early 2014 hire and that should drop even further on the next bid.
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Originally Posted by ChilledPilot
(Post 2777960)
I wrote "disrespectful" because I really do think it is a wrong thread for those comments. Basically saying we are all stupid for joining. I do not think XJT is great, but look around, not much better.
I do appreciate opinions as they helped me to decide on regional in a first place. RJT-1y class date wait, 7m training PSA-1-2y rsv with barely any flying time (all DH + base not guaranteed) 10y flow to AA, 4m training delay PDT- Worst regional in the area. Unorganized, poor quality of life, 7-9y flow as of now and spiraling down, 3-6m training delay+6-8m training time (brother CA there) XJT-Great training for first jet type (no delay), experienced CAs, downtown hotels, great benefits, looooong upgrade (family member senior FO) P.S. Interviewed with all 4 with offers. Are you saying from when you’re offered? I haven’t see. That at all |
Originally Posted by ChilledPilot
(Post 2777960)
I wrote "disrespectful" because I really do think it is a wrong thread for those comments. Basically saying we are all stupid for joining. I do not think XJT is great, but look around, not much better.
I do appreciate opinions as they helped me to decide on regional in a first place. RJT-1y class date wait, 7m training PSA-1-2y rsv with barely any flying time (all DH + base not guaranteed) 10y flow to AA, 4m training delay PDT- Worst regional in the area. Unorganized, poor quality of life, 7-9y flow as of now and spiraling down, 3-6m training delay+6-8m training time (brother CA there) XJT-Great training for first jet type (no delay), experienced CAs, downtown hotels, great benefits, looooong upgrade (family member senior FO) P.S. Interviewed with all 4 with offers. Are you saying from when you’re offered? I haven’t see. That at all |
Originally Posted by ChilledPilot
(Post 2777960)
XJT-Great training for first jet type (no delay), experienced CAs, downtown hotels, great benefits, looooong upgrade (family member senior FO)
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Originally Posted by DreFlyer
(Post 2781395)
Did they tell you which downtown hotels they are using to house trainees?
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Originally Posted by Austin Milbarge
(Post 2781403)
It's downtown hotels on overnights over 15 hours. In training you're near the airport.
With the horrible Houston car traffic I'm sure they're housing trainees close to the training center . . . since it's a long continuous training footprint I wonder if the hotels have kitchenettes so healthy-nutrition-conscious trainees can cook their own food? And yes, I know that things were tough in the past with double-occupancy rooms and all but nobody should be bashing anyone about asking that question now :rolleyes: |
Sadly no kitchenettes that I’ve heard of. Fridge and some were lucky to have a small freezer too. Most people also needed to request a microwave from the front desk.
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Correct. I was at the Sheraton for my training. Small fridge in the room and you can request a microwave if they’re available. Nice hotel, pretty decent restaurant, and now they give free breakfast vouchers for Xjet. Also, they have this nice program where if you decline room cleaning, they’ll shove a $5 voucher under your door for each day you decline cleaning.
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Originally Posted by Arliss
(Post 2781496)
Correct. I was at the Sheraton for my training. Small fridge in the room and you can request a microwave if they’re available. Nice hotel, pretty decent restaurant, and now they give free breakfast vouchers for Xjet. Also, they have this nice program where if you decline room cleaning, they’ll shove a $5 voucher under your door for each day you decline cleaning.
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Never heard of them doing the $5 voucher for us.
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What is the timeframe after recieving the cjo? I asked for April 9-15 ATP/CTP course in ATL and May 6 Training start. It still shows under review and no confirmation on dates, any input?
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I don't need new sheets and towels every single day (sure as hell don't do it at home). So I'd get my $5 a day vouchers and once a week or so I'd take the tag off the door and have the maids come through.
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Originally Posted by flippedr6
(Post 2781950)
What is the timeframe after recieving the cjo? I asked for April 9-15 ATP/CTP course in ATL and May 6 Training start. It still shows under review and no confirmation on dates, any input?
You should be contacted by one of their travel people to be set up with hotel and flight info. Don’t stress to much. I’m sure they are just a little backed up with the influx of new hires they are getting these days. |
Originally Posted by flippedr6
(Post 2781950)
What is the timeframe after recieving the cjo? I asked for April 9-15 ATP/CTP course in ATL and May 6 Training start. It still shows under review and no confirmation on dates, any input?
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Great, thank you both for the info.
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Originally Posted by flippedr6
(Post 2781950)
What is the timeframe after recieving the cjo? I asked for April 9-15 ATP/CTP course in ATL and May 6 Training start. It still shows under review and no confirmation on dates, any input?
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