Itsajob

I have flown with several captains who have been involved in the interview process. They said that those who were shot down in the interview (having passed the Hogan) were almost always a result of poor attitudes. There are of course exceptions, but most of the ones who didn’t get a job offer came across as not taking the interview seriously. They appeared to take the process as a mere formality rather than an actual interview and one of the biggest days of their lives. Showing up thinking that they were already flying for United and that the position was rightfully theirs didn’t turn out well. I was told by every captain that they genuinely wanted to hire every pilot who walked through the door. Those that treated the process seriously, maintained exemplary employment records, and attended sim and interview prep for the most part did well. As to the people pulled out of the pool after passing the interview, your guess is as good as mine. My guess is that the applicant’s attendance record changed after being placed in the pool. Your work history is on trial until you’re off of probation at a legacy airline. If you have a bunch of sick time in the bank, leave it on the table and go to better things, rather than burn your bank and risk getting yanked out of the pool.

Excargodog

United has a right to be picky but the value of the program, both in recruiting at the regional and retention at the regional, is diminished by every participant who - through no apparent fault of their own - is a nonselectee.

Lebron

10-20 out of the 350+ people that have gone through?

Fletch727

I’m a little confused. If they passed the Hogan and the interview, then they would have been hired... Right...? Somewhere along the process, they did not pass. A friend of mine didn’t pass the interview and has speculation as to why, namely lack of interview prep. Part of the process includes a background check after the interview, as well. Another thing reportedly done by UA is they take a snapshot of your airlineapps when the opportunity to come to United is extended. The day of the interview, you initial every page of a printed copy of that application signing to it’s legitimacy and authenticity. If there have been changes, then that can be an issue. Not everyone who isn’t picked up after the fact may be honest with friends, either, due to embarrassment or that they fibbed on their app to get the interview. Who knows. My guess is that the either the face-to-face had an issue (even though the applicant thought they shacked it) or research into the individual afterward caught something.

Excargodog

Didn't say it made sense or even was fair but yeah, ANY unexplained disqualifications decrease credibility in the program and undermine its value as a recruiting and retention aid.

As they explained to us in commander's school, " Perception IS reality when it comes to morale."

DoSomePilotStuf

I would think common sense should tell us when 5% of the pool doesn’t get through it’s the credibility of the individuals and not the program that should come into question.

BusBoy88

When are you going over thru the CPP? Have you taken the Hogan yet? Interviewed? how about the final review?

BusBoy88

I'll try to help you with your confusion. I'm not talking about people who didn't pass the interview or didn't pass the hogan. I'm not even talking about people who lied on their apps or committed information from their apps. There was basically a 3 step process for the CPP. The hogan, the interview, and then a final HR review that would take place approximately 2-3 months before your potential class date with United. There were clearly defined things in the CPP agreement you had to keep off your employment record to pass the final review: training failures, unexcused sick calls during specific times (holidays, vacations, training, etc), UTCs, and a few other items. There were 10-20 individuals who passed the hogan, interview, and had none of the red flags specified in the agreement that should have prevented them from passing the final review who were then turned down with no explanation. Some of those people had been waiting around in the pool for over a year. If you'd like an analogy, imagine taking a check ride that you know all of the standards and requirements for before beginning the ride. You complete every maneuver within standards and then go into the debriefing room and are informed you didn't pass the check ride. No explanation as to why. That's basically what happened to 10-20 of the applicants. It's not like it's a rumor. It's been confirmed by ALPO and possibly maybe even the XJT CPP "liaison".

DoSomePilotStuf

Take my bags to the room BusBoy and mind ya business.

BusBoy88

You can't afford my hourly rate Baghdad Bob