ThisIsMe17

How does that hiring time compare to other airlines?

iH8registering

Are you referring to my statement about people hired early in the year still stuck in the training center?

I’m not sure how it would compare. I believe at one time, at least for my class, the training footprint was six to eight weeks.

One problem particular to this year was the fact that you had a lot of pilots being transitioned from the CRJ to the ERJ. Add to that the new 175 program training starting up, weekly or bi-weekly new hire classes, and legacy ERJ pilot upgrades. I believe the only one of those that no longer applies now is the CRJ to ERJ transition pilots. I’m pretty sure that’s finished now. However, from what I’ve been told, ExpressJet has lost quite a few Flight Instructors in the training center and it’s not a quick process to replace them.

You would have to check the individual regional forums to get an idea of how ExpressJet compares to the others.

ThisIsMe17

Thanks! That’s what I was wondering. How is the training at ExpressJet? Is there a high pass rate?

MooseAg03

The training so far is great. Every instructor I’ve had has been with the company for 20 years or more. I’m on the 175 so there are a few growing pains because even the instructors have only been typed in the jet for 8 months. The 145 training is a well oiled machine as long as there is instructor availability.

If you study and apply yourself, the instructors will make every effort to help you succeed.


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ThisIsMe17

Would you recommend someone bid for the 145 or 175? The last time I talked to a recruiter they said the 175 class date isn’t until April. And I’m sure it’s going to be longer than that now.

I don’t mind which aircraft I’d get but I feel like the 175 could translate better to other faster aircraft if I'm lucky enough for my career to progress towards that

MooseAg03

I wanted the 145 but was given the 175 due to training back logs discussed above. Take whichever aircraft gets you flying quicker. If you’ve never flown a jet, the 145 is a great place to start. The level of automation in the 175 can make you lazy, the 145 will teach you more about managing a jet. I’ve flown lots of airplanes, and the 175 is closer to my last jet, but as a newbie you are better off learning some airmanship on the 145.


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iH8registering

The training is good. Out of all the instructors I had in initial training and recurrent training throughout the years, only one was unprofessional, and in my opinion, had no business being in any kind of instructor. Everyone else was excellent. I suppose I’ll go ahead and state that I passed everything in case someone would like to come forward on this forum and say that I’m accusing someone of being unprofessional due to me being angry for failing something.

It was my first airline, as it was for the majority of everyone else in my new hire class. Everyone passed training on the first attempt.

If you put in the effort and keep a positive attitude throughout your training, you will be fine. Just study what they tell you to and don’t give up. It can be intimidating and difficult if you’re new to airline training, but it’s not an insurmountable task. I managed to do it and I was nowhere near the smartest person in my class.

iH8registering

If I were you, I would opt for the 145. You’ll start class sooner which will translate to getting a seniority number quicker. Seniority is everything at an airline. You’ll be that much further ahead in their “hiring boom”, giving you a hard line and your base of choice sooner. Besides, sooner or later you’re going to most likely be pushed into the 175 if the company manages to acquire more, which most likely will happen.

ThisIsMe17

Do you think their is a future at ExpressJet and growth? I suppose I’m wondering how they’d be if United decided to part ways. I know United has a 49% stake in ExpressJet but I’ve heard that ExpressJet will never be United’s “Endeavor” due to contracts.

PeakEGT

I’ve been on the line for two months and no complaints. Being on reserve and getting used every day. Not having to sit around for 4-5 days is a plus for me. A lot of rumors in the crew rooms and people I fly with but I just take it a day at a time.